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08-02-2004, 01:43 PM
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08-10-2004, 06:33 AM
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...an excerpt from another forum by designer Tad Roberts.. A few years ago the average yearly use for Hinckley Picnic Boats was about 30 hours. So fuel use, in the overall scheme of things, made no difference. And I agree with Mr. Fexas that you can make a boat quite a bit wider without things getting out of hand. But he includes a caveat, "if weight is kept in check", this never happens! Boats are wider, higher, with more layers and levels and WEIGHT than ever before. The Fexas Midnight Lace 44 weights about 16-20,000 pounds, power is twin 220 HP GM 8.2's, she will reportedly cruise at 21 knots burning 14gph. That's not bad. A new Cruisers 45 weights close to 40,000 pounds, has twin 480 HP Volvos, and burns 34gph for 21 knots. Now at $1.25 a gallon that may be possible, but at $5-6.00 a gallon it would be a fair sized proposition. |
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08-18-2004, 12:34 PM
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You Guys have nothing to worry about, Over here we are paying about $4.50 g/US or €.95 per L for Gas and about €.85 L for Diesel. You can buy duty free diesel fuel for boats here @ €.55 L or $2.50 g/US Pitty I am running 2 outboards  |
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08-29-2004, 06:22 AM
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Lucky fellows!! US must be the perfect country to use cars and boats in You say $3/ gallon of Gas and $2.45 Diesel Because we in the rest of the world uses SI-units in this case "Liters" (1 gallon = 3,7854 liters) I had to turn some numbers... but Those are Swedish fuel prices: Diesel "White" (usual) 4.2 $/gallon Diesel "Green" (only sold to ships whit a charter-buissnes etc. otherwise ilegal!!) 2.1 $/gallon Gas: 5 to 5.6 $/gallon (depending on octaine-contents 95-98) In the case of our gas-price the fact is that 70% of the price is just TAXes!!!!!! Welcome to Sweden......NO I don't think so!!!! Parhaps I come to US instead!! |
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08-29-2004, 11:48 AM
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Mexico will soon offer low cost diesel to visiting yachts. Just heard that by November, Mexico will allow pleasure boats visiting here to buy fuel at the commercial fishing fleet price. This was just voted by the congress here. At the same time you will only have to clear into Mexico once and once clearing out. No more port by port paperwork! Regards Graham |
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04-26-2005, 08:18 AM
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I was commenting on the new "MITseaAH" recently and thought this fuel notation might be applicable in this subject thread: "Please excuse me just a moment while I digress to consider the fuel needs of these big engines. The owner looks forward to trips from Long Island, NY and Newport, RI to Bermuda. I believe it has been estimated that MITseaAh will burn about 60 % of her fuel load on this 25kt dash out the 630 miles from Newport to Bermuda. That works out to about 122,400 gal or about 200 gal/mile. At an average approaching $3.5 per gal (between here and Bermuda) this trip will run about $428K per one way trip. " |
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04-27-2005, 02:47 AM
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another post talked about "red fuel". So, please explain this quickly to me. How many different types of fuel are we talking about? Red, Green, White, Gasoline? Sound like the Italian tricolore flag!  Can gas turbines burn "regular" fuel? Which type? Regards, Olli | |
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Diesel is roughly $3.15/gallon (US$)
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08-23-2005, 07:48 PM
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...this little discussion from a 'Passagemaker Under Power forum.... Fuel & Prices & Cash vs Credit Cards We purchased fuel 7 times on "Legrace". Last year after breaking in the engine by running hard up and down the IJsselmeer we bought fuel for the first time in Stavoren, NL. at a gas station that serviced cars on one side of the pumps and boats on the other. They had the best prices in the area 0.813 Euros/Liter ($3.78/gal). But they would only accept cash or a Dutch bank debit card. That is typical in the Netherlands when buying fuel at marinas or bunker ships. Our next fuel purchase was in Liege Belgium. Belgium has the some of the best fuel prices for boats because you can buy un-taxed red diesel. We bought #2 Diesel for 0.425 Euro/Liter ($1.98/gal). The bunker ship accepted Dutch bank debit card. Along the French canals and some rivers, fuel can be hard to find and expensive. Sometimes the charter companies will have a fuel pump for servicing their boats and in a pinch will sell to other boaters. Many times the sail boaters will lug jerry cans back & forth from local gas stations but that is not an option for us when buying 600 or 800 liters. Over the winter we bought fuel twice in Valence at 1.02 Euros/liter ($4.75/gal) and they accepted all major credit cards. Just before we left Valence this past spring we topped up, at 0.99 Euros/liter ($4.61/gal). >From our past cruising on the Seine River, we knew there were bunker ships servicing barges but most of them only had un-taxed red diesel which is illegal for pleasure boats France. There is a bunker ship at St Mammes on the Seine, that sells "white" diesel in addition to red for the barges. Fortunately I asked the day before we planned to buy fuel about price and method of payment; 1.14 Euro/liter ($5.31/gal) and cash only! Lynn commented later that was probably our biggest cash purchase ever - we cut off the pump at 530 Euros. Our last purchase was in Dover, UK. (also red un-taxed diesel - legal for boats) £0.40/liter ($2.76/gal) and all major credit cards accepted. More Later, Bob & Lynn Williamson MV Legrace Aquanaut Drifter 1250 AK |
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08-23-2005, 09:33 PM
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Green fuel can be a specific grade of gasoline. Red or sometimes purple gasoline indicates tax out although there is probably somewhere on this planet where those colours indicate something else. Turbines should run on a narrow cut fuel which is closer to what is called Kerosene or white gas again depending on where you are. Some installations can be run on a narrow cut clean diesel. If you think that there is lots of room for confusion you are absolutely correct. Always check the fuel sample before loading it. Just remembered another one. Blue is usually avgas. | |
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