Rough Condition Boating

Catamarans · 06-26-2006, 03:45 PM

What kind of set-up would work best in rough conditions... Lets say for a 40' to 50' boat?

Dhowdodger · 06-26-2006, 04:53 PM

Double the mooring lines and hit the pub.

Loren Schweizer · 06-26-2006, 04:56 PM

Catamarans:

Bow, stern, and springlines well secured, oh, and some fenders

KCook · 06-26-2006, 06:21 PM

50' submarine

sailronin · 06-26-2006, 09:20 PM

Catamarans, are you talking about at the dock, underway coastal, or at sea?? Boat intended for cruising the Bahamas and Caribbean or high latitudes or do you already have the boat?

Dave

Catamarans · 06-27-2006, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sailronin

Catamarans, are you talking about at the dock, underway coastal, or at sea?? Boat intended for cruising the Bahamas and Caribbean or high latitudes or do you already have the boat?

Dave

I'm talking about open ocean conditions, 15-30 ft waves.

YachtForums · 06-27-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Catamarans

I'm talking about open ocean conditions, 15-30 ft waves.

You might want to leave your boat at home and take your board...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ol7X...ge=2&t=t&f =b

Loren Schweizer · 06-27-2006, 01:58 PM

Carl, I saw that surf thing on TV sometime ago. They were on the north coast of Hawaii, the beach was closed due to a storm, and these, purportedly, were the largest waves ever surfed.

Catamarans, I have some very good news for you. Go to your local purveyor of books and dig up "Heavy Weather Sailing" by Adler Coles. Like me, it's sort of old and was written just after WWII. A classic! You can vicariously experience the many ordeals of some real yachtsmen who raced in places like the Irish Sea and the Bay of Biscay and get all kinds of good advice as to what sort of "set-ups" work.

BTW, you'll be pleased to know that the worst of the seas were a lot less than the 30 ft. you mention.

Catamarans · 06-27-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Loren Schweizer

Carl, I saw that surf thing on TV sometime ago. They were on the north coast of Hawaii, the beach was closed due to a storm, and these, purportedly, were the largest waves ever surfed.

Catamarans, I have some very good news for you. Go to your local purveyor of books and dig up "Heavy Weather Sailing" by Adler Coles. Like me, it's sort of old and was written just after WWII. A classic! You can vicariously experience the many ordeals of some real yachtsmen who raced in places like the Irish Sea and the Bay of Biscay and get all kinds of good advice as to what sort of "set-ups" work.

BTW, you'll be pleased to know that the worst of the seas were a lot less than the 30 ft. you mention.

Thanks Loren, Carl nice video

sailronin · 06-27-2006, 04:54 PM

Catamarans,
Open ocean with 15 to 30 foot seas in a 40 - 50 foot boat...
Full keel, double ended ketch, something along the lines of Atkins designs. Most likely steel if you are heading to ice areas. In that size range, no power boat, no multihulls for high latitude cruising.

Been there, done that, got the puke stained T-shirt. No need to do it again!

Good luck
Dave

PS Better idea, get a good weather service, Ocean Marine Navigation and avoid the 30 footers

Kevin · 06-27-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by YachtForums

You might want to leave your boat at home and take your board...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ol7X...ge=2&t=t&f =b

I believe they mis-captioned that vid...

It should read "weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!" LOL

That's just awesome!

Loren Schweizer · 06-28-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by sailronin

Been there, done that, got the puke stained T-shirt. No need to do it again!

Dave's advice should be heeded, Catamarans, so you might want to know the Three Stages of Seasickness:

1) You think you're gonna die
2) You know you're gonna die
3) You're afraid... that you won't die!

MYCaptainChris · 06-29-2006, 09:49 AM

What I always tell my guests and crew about sea sick is that there are two types of people. Those who get sea sick and those who haven't been sea sick........ yet.

But that doesn't seem to help the owners wife. She is very intimate with the day head.
BTW: We hadn't even made it out of government cut and she was sick!!! She gets it bad!!!!

KCook · 06-29-2006, 10:03 AM

Speaking of sea heaves, I wonder if there is a double edged sword here? In that the favorite choice for heavy seas is often a trawler, right? But they roll more than the other types, so expect more sea sickness?

Ok, the mind wandered,
green Kelly

Loren Schweizer · 06-29-2006, 11:13 AM

Green Kelly:

Yes, you'd think that those slack-bilged trawlers would roll like nobody's business, so that's why you'll find virtually all of them are actively stabilized.
And, if they don't run in a beam sea like they're on rails, probably the fins aren't big enough.
Properly set up, the complaints then seem to come more from the pitching motion and that, I believe, is why you see more and more bulbous bows even on smaller trawlers-- to dampen pitching, not for any gains in hull efficiency.