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03-25-2006, 05:34 PM
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Yes the chopper would be better. You coud sail from New York to La Harve and then fly to Paris.
safty is one reason I was looking at an S-61 type.
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03-28-2006, 09:47 AM
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This perhaps is a solution to the problem!??
a chopper with the performance of a turboprop-plane!! (VTOL aircraft)
Didn't find any specs of those though, but I think there is a few different models on the market allready (range from 2seats and up...)
If they could build a big one with a Yacht-friendly folding wing, they most likely could build the small one like that to |
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03-28-2006, 10:10 AM
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It requires substantially more landing space though.
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03-28-2006, 10:12 AM
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Not to mention frightful expense! |
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03-28-2006, 10:13 AM
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Expense is relative. The BA609 is aimed at competing with choppers, while having more interior volume, capacity, and range for only a minor increase in price.
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03-28-2006, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by marcusra This perhaps is a solution to the problem!??
a chopper with the performance of a turboprop-plane!! (VTOL aircraft)
Didn't find any specs of those though, but I think there is a few different models on the market allready (range from 2seats and up...)
If they could build a big one with a Yacht-friendly folding wing, they most likely could build the small one like that to  | AgustaWestland BA609
Weights
Max take Off 7631 kg 16800 lb
Max Useful Load 2500 kg 5512 lb
Engine Rating (2 x Pratt & Whitney PT6C-67A)
Take Off 1252 kW 1679 SHP
Maximum continuous 1142 kW 1531 SHP
Crew - Pilot / Passengers 2 / 9
Max cruise speed 509 km/h 275 kts
Rate of climb n.a. m/s n.a. ft/min
Operational ceiling 7760 m 25000 ft
Max Range 1389 km 750 NM
Cabin pressurization 5.5 psi |
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03-28-2006, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by marcusra Didn't find any specs of those though, but I think there is a few different models on the market allready (range from 2seats and up...) | As far as I'm aware the only civilian model is the BA609, and I don't think it's actually in production for general sale yet. After the accidents with the V-22's a few years ago the tilt-rotor program was set a little back. (I believe they needed to improve pilot training and add a few fail-safes.)
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03-28-2006, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin It requires substantially more landing space though. |
More width but parhaps less length. often the length (clearance of the rotorblades) is the limit! But only the ocean is the limit sideways
The weight is another aspect... I didn't find any numbers on Bell's hompage!? But it feels like a chopper weigh less than 7000kg???
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03-28-2006, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by marcusra More width but parhaps less length. often the length (clearance of the rotorblades) is the limit! But only the ocean is the limit sideways
The weight is another aspect... I didn't find any numbers on Bell's hompage!? But it feels like a chopper weigh less than 7000kg??? | Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey
Take-off weights:
47,500 lb Vertical Takeoff/Landing (VTOL)
55,000 lb Short Takeoff/Landing (STOL)
60,500 lb Self Deploy STO |
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03-28-2006, 01:54 PM
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That's the BIG VTOL-toy!!
I was talking about weights of ordinary Yacht-choppers.
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03-28-2006, 02:19 PM
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There's some weight info on Page 1 of this thread. |
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03-28-2006, 03:01 PM
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it's quite a diffrence!! 5,291lb for a medium sized chopper and almost twice the weight for an empty VTOL!!
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03-28-2006, 03:10 PM
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Well thanks for the numbers and drawings  . As for the BA609, if you can get the wings to rotate and the massice props to fold as the Marines have, then maybe a Yacht could hold it, but that Yacht would have to be pritty big. I would say over 100m to have a pad, that could hold it and service that bird.
Also think on this you all, pilot training and Insurance!! Also having a BA609 would bring me to think of not having to go into port as much. Also a good reason for the nice big Helo, for provissions. Stay away in a nice quiet privite place, say Greenland in July and be alone, with your toys and friends
So how is this to think on?
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03-29-2006, 12:25 AM
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Just saw a very fun looking seaplane on a travel show, the call it a Float Trike, I don't know if thats it's real name, but it's basicly an ultralight with floats.
They have a web site, but it's under constuction. http://www.float-trikes.com.au
Obviously not a cargo plane, but looks like a hell of a lot of fun. |
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03-29-2006, 08:51 PM
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True it dose look fun maybe a nice "toy" for the Yacht, but not for real work or for long rang commuting or Charter ops. But would be fun
I will have to try and keep them in mind.
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