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Old 03-25-2006, 05:34 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yes the chopper would be better. You coud sail from New York to La Harve and then fly to Paris.

safty is one reason I was looking at an S-61 type.
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:47 AM   #32 (permalink)
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This perhaps is a solution to the problem!??

a chopper with the performance of a turboprop-plane!! (VTOL aircraft)

Didn't find any specs of those though, but I think there is a few different models on the market allready (range from 2seats and up...)

If they could build a big one with a Yacht-friendly folding wing, they most likely could build the small one like that to
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:10 AM   #33 (permalink)
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It requires substantially more landing space though.
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:12 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Not to mention frightful expense!
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Old 03-28-2006, 10:13 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Expense is relative. The BA609 is aimed at competing with choppers, while having more interior volume, capacity, and range for only a minor increase in price.
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Old 03-28-2006, 11:24 AM   #36 (permalink)
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This perhaps is a solution to the problem!??

a chopper with the performance of a turboprop-plane!! (VTOL aircraft)

Didn't find any specs of those though, but I think there is a few different models on the market allready (range from 2seats and up...)

If they could build a big one with a Yacht-friendly folding wing, they most likely could build the small one like that to
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Old 03-28-2006, 12:02 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Didn't find any specs of those though, but I think there is a few different models on the market allready (range from 2seats and up...)
As far as I'm aware the only civilian model is the BA609, and I don't think it's actually in production for general sale yet. After the accidents with the V-22's a few years ago the tilt-rotor program was set a little back. (I believe they needed to improve pilot training and add a few fail-safes.)
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It requires substantially more landing space though.

More width but parhaps less length. often the length (clearance of the rotorblades) is the limit! But only the ocean is the limit sideways

The weight is another aspect... I didn't find any numbers on Bell's hompage!? But it feels like a chopper weigh less than 7000kg???
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More width but parhaps less length. often the length (clearance of the rotorblades) is the limit! But only the ocean is the limit sideways

The weight is another aspect... I didn't find any numbers on Bell's hompage!? But it feels like a chopper weigh less than 7000kg???
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That's the BIG VTOL-toy!!
I was talking about weights of ordinary Yacht-choppers.
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Old 03-28-2006, 02:19 PM   #41 (permalink)
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There's some weight info on Page 1 of this thread.
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Old 03-28-2006, 03:01 PM   #42 (permalink)
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it's quite a diffrence!! 5,291lb for a medium sized chopper and almost twice the weight for an empty VTOL!!
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Old 03-28-2006, 03:10 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Well thanks for the numbers and drawings . As for the BA609, if you can get the wings to rotate and the massice props to fold as the Marines have, then maybe a Yacht could hold it, but that Yacht would have to be pritty big. I would say over 100m to have a pad, that could hold it and service that bird.

Also think on this you all, pilot training and Insurance!! Also having a BA609 would bring me to think of not having to go into port as much. Also a good reason for the nice big Helo, for provissions. Stay away in a nice quiet privite place, say Greenland in July and be alone, with your toys and friends

So how is this to think on?
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:25 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Just saw a very fun looking seaplane on a travel show, the call it a Float Trike, I don't know if thats it's real name, but it's basicly an ultralight with floats.

They have a web site, but it's under constuction.
http://www.float-trikes.com.au

Obviously not a cargo plane, but looks like a hell of a lot of fun.
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Old 03-29-2006, 08:51 PM   #45 (permalink)
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True it dose look fun maybe a nice "toy" for the Yacht, but not for real work or for long rang commuting or Charter ops. But would be fun

I will have to try and keep them in mind.
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