[YachtForums]

Thanks for re-posting John.

Earlier, I was merging some threads into one category and forgot to make copies of the newest replies. Next thing I know... poof. Gone!

[capitan_buzo]

any new photos of Platinum yet?

[YachtForums]

I just noticed the number of views on the Platinum thread (in the News, Products & Launches" forum)...

Nearly 8000 views in less than 8 days!

[alloyed2sea]

As fascinating as we all must find "Platinum" - the sheer size of it and the allocation of resources is simply stupifying.
If I can barely comprehend it, how must the citizens of those oil-producing countries feel?
Frankly, itz no wonder Al Qaeda has so many adherents in those countries.
Who remembers what happened to Saddam's yacht "Al Mansur"? Looks like Desert Storm - Part III is comin' up...

[orion]

Originally Posted by alloyed2sea

As fascinating as we all must find "Platinum" - the sheer size of it and the allocation of resources is simply stupifying.
If I can barely comprehend it, how must the citizens of those oil-producing countries feel?
Frankly, itz no wonder Al Qaeda has so many adherents in those countries.
Who remembers what happened to Saddam's yacht "Al Mansur"? Looks like Desert Storm - Part III is comin' up...

Who destroyed Al Mansur?
Who's talking about allocation of resources?
Who can that be?

I think people of the United Arabic Emirates feel proudeness of the very beautiful yacht Platinum but also for their own country.
A country without taxes, free hospitality, no criminality, no unemployed , no drugs.....
Have a look at your own country before teaching others how to do it.

[alloyed2sea]

Originally Posted by orion

Who destroyed Al Mansur?
Who's talking about allocation of resources?
Who can that be?

I think people of the United Arabic Emirates feel proudeness of the very beautiful yacht Platinum but also for their own country.
A country without taxes, free hospitality, no criminality, no unemployed , no drugs.....
Have a look at your own country before teaching others how to do it.

The nature of an unfeeling ruling class is of as great a concern to me here in the United States as it is to many people in the Middle East. The unbridled and patent disregard with which the Bush Administration and its supporters treat the structure of our civil society is not something I'd ever hold up as a model of enlightenment or progress.
What I said about "Platinum" I said in the Spirit of '76 (our successful rebellion against tyrannical rule of Great Britain) - hopefully for the edification of anyone listening.
For while you may not now wish to acknowledge the very existence of religious and socially-driven forces who oppose such things, let me assure you they are growing stronger - take for example the "Peninsula Lions". http://www.persiangulfonline.org/tak...news0205-3.htm
Without such vision, it will be up to their security & intelligence forces to forestall another Islamic revolution from taking place - witness the failure of the Shah's SAVAK to see how bad things can truly get for misinformed royalty these days.
It is not with malice that I point these facts out - but don't believe for an instant that everyone in the UAE or Brunei truly looks to the "Platinum" with a sense of nationalistic pride.
That kind of "display" is simply obscene - a pale "imitation" of the decadent lifestyle found along Caribbean and Mediterranean coastlines. Would YOU honestly take pride such rotten apery?
Don't be fooled into thinking that what goes on today will go on tommorrow.
Rather, ask yourself - where would the UAE be without a stable regime in Saudi Arabia?
What happens when Iran finishes building its arsenal of nuclear weapons?
Will the weak-kneed princes in Riyhad support the oh-so visibly corrupt emirates then?
How will the Ulama and Grand Ayatollah dispense with such clear manifestations of Western influence?
525 foot personal "yachts" are indeed impressive, only I don't think they're having the effect you suggest.

[orion]

Originally Posted by alloyed2sea

The nature of an unfeeling ruling class is of as great a concern to me here in the United States as it is to many people in the Middle East. The unbridled and patent disregard with which the Bush Administration and its supporters treat the structure of our civil society is not something I'd ever hold up as a model of enlightenment or progress.
What I said about "Platinum" I said in the Spirit of '76 (our successful rebellion against tyrannical rule of Great Britain) - hopefully for the edification of anyone listening.
For while you may not now wish to acknowledge the very existence of religious and socially-driven forces who oppose such things, let me assure you they are growing stronger (http://www.ndu.edu/inss/strforum/SF_67/forum67.html).
Without such vision, it will be up to their security & intelligence forces to forestall another Islamic revolution from taking place - witness the failure of the Shah's SAVAK to see how bad things can truly get for misinformed royalty these days.
It is not with malice that I point these facts out - but don't believe for an instant that everyone in the UAE or Brunei truly looks to the "Platinum" with a sense of nationalistic pride.
That kind of "display" is simply obscene - a pale "imitation" of the decadent lifestyle found along Caribbean and Mediterranean coastlines. Would YOU honestly take pride such rotten apery?
Don't be fooled into thinking that what goes on today will go on tommorrow.
Rather, ask yourself - where would the UAE be without a stable regime in Saudi Arabia?
What happens when Iran finishes building its arsenal of nuclear weapons?
Will the weak-kneed princes in Riyhad support the oh-so visibly corrupt emirates then?
How will the Ulama and Grand Ayatollah dispense with such clear manifestations of Western influence?
525 foot personal "yachts" are indeed impressive, only I don't think they're having the effect you suggest.

So bad feelings a big & beautiful yacht can give!
Yes, I can imagine how John & Larry might feel now with their "thinny" yachts.
I do not think that this is the right forum for political or religious discussions but I think the root for many discussions about these countries come from: " OIL" , something all the western countries are in hard need of.
Anyway," Platinum " is a awesome yacht and UAE a fascinating country.

DONT WORRY, BE HAPPY

[Kevin]

Yes, I can imagine how John & Larry might feel now with their "thinny" yachts.

I don't see why they'd have any feelings of envy... they bought their yachts with their own fortune that they amassed all by themselves. In my opinion, that makes their yachts worth more than Platinum will ever be. Technically, good ol' Bush could park his butt on the Nimitz and claim to have the biggest, most expensive yacht in the world... but it doesn't really mean anything cause it's not really his. Platinum was purchased by a royal family correct?... people who made their fortunes off the state, and were likely born into it even, with no effort involved on their parts. As awsome as Platinum is (and ****, it's one sweet ship) I don't think I'll ever really compare it to Octopus or Rising Sun.

Edit: The "d" word is edited?

[yachtdreamer]

I supose for most mortal 160m is way to big, but owners of these super mega yachts see things differently. first they want all poss. luxury insite, second for certain its a matter of "prestige". and third and not least WHY NOT, if they can afford it.

Imagine how many jobs they create with it, building them, crew, etc. and for us yacht lovers-spotters, it's a toppic.

About "it being to bigg to enter in certain places", what do they care they have toy's to go there..... I wonder how big their biggest "dingy" will be,..... maybe 80 or 90', think of LGB who has a "toy" sailing - and a "toy" motor boat I would love to have.

[yachtdreamer]

I answered a post on the Platinium Thread and it gets on this one?????

[boatingetc]

Originally Posted by yachtdreamer

I supose for most mortal 160m is way to big, but owners of these super mega yachts see things differently. first they want all poss. luxury insite, second for certain its a matter of "prestige". and third and not least WHY NOT, if they can afford it.

Imagine how many jobs they create with it, building them, crew, etc. and for us yacht lovers-spotters, it's a toppic.

About "it being to bigg to enter in certain places", what do they care they have toy's to go there..... I wonder how big their biggest "dingy" will be,..... maybe 80 or 90', think of LGB who has a "toy" sailing - and a "toy" motor boat I would love to have.

Paul Allen owns 3 mega yachts all over 300 feet...My calculations if Bill Gates would own a boat...he could build one thats around 3 or more miles long...if I'm correct..since he has around 45 billion dollars. I suppose that when one has billions of dollars, anything is possible.

[speeder]

you mean 45 milliard dollars, don`t you?

[Kevin]

In english it goes "million", then "billion" (then "trilllion" even).

As for Gates, I thought he was only hovering around 30-35 billion. Maybe it's changed? In any case, I once read that his fortune can actually fluctuate up to 1 billion +/- in a single week. Craziness.

[yachtdreamer]

If I'm correct "milliard" in Englisch = Billion

[yachtdreamer]

Wel if you're in the software stuf and have a product like "windows", used in the whole world, I wouldn't be surprised that on day's like Xmas it goes verry fast with those Billions