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03-02-2012, 11:33 AM
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I am trying to research the history of my Grandfathers yacht "Desire" his name was L.F.R. Bellows from Detroit. The yacht was always docked at DYC were he was also the Commodore in the early 30's. The attached picture was taken in 1931 in Detroit.
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03-02-2012, 02:47 PM
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Hello gbellows, Welcome to YachtForums!
I'm generally good at coming up with info on the Classics. I have very limited reference material here at my Winter perch in Ft Lauderdale. When I get to my office in Maryland next week I may be able to find info on "Desire" for you.
In the meantime, do you know if she was built of wood or steel?
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03-03-2012, 10:34 AM
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SeaEric
Thank You
Greg
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03-03-2012, 10:58 AM
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Would also like to know the shipyard or make and any other details of the yachts life.
Thanks
Greg Bellows
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03-09-2012, 07:53 PM
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I'm stumped. The oldest edition of Lloyds that I have is from 1959. I find no reference to a yacht of this size and build year with the current or former name "Desire". Anyone else have any ideas?
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03-10-2012, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SeaEric I'm stumped. The oldest edition of Lloyds that I have is from 1959. I find no reference to a yacht of this size and build year with the current or former name "Desire". Anyone else have any ideas? | I've been watching this thread with interest. If Eric doesn't know, I'll be surprised if we learn anything more.
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03-10-2012, 10:30 AM
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I looked in the BGSU Archive site, no mention of "Desire" or the owner Bellows. I am pretty sure this is a DeFoe built around the late 20's.
We met at LYC a week ago, I think at that time I told you it was a DeFoe. Do you have any other statistics on this boat? Size, Later owners, etc? Anything might help.
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03-10-2012, 04:40 PM
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You might want to contact the Mariners Museum in Newport New, VA http://www.marinersmuseum.org/librar...rch-assistance
My Dad spent days there researching designs for the Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff he eventually built in his basement. And of course they have a huge Titanic exhibit. If you are ever in the area plan on spending at least a day there getting lost in everything Nautical they have to take in!
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03-10-2012, 07:53 PM
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The photo above - Is that a Rosenfeld? if so, there may be info on this photo and the yacht at Mystic.
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03-11-2012, 04:36 PM
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I tripped across this - not sure if it is related Cox & Stevens, Inc. Collection
Scroll down to the 1912 section
34.56 DESIRE; 90 ft. motorboat Designer, Cox & Stevens, Inc.; Design #143B; Builder, Gulf Fisheries Co.; 1912
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03-11-2012, 04:50 PM
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Good work! I think that info would sure hold some promise. Greg may wish to make a research request to Mystic to see what else is there on "Desire"
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04-24-2012, 08:12 AM
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I have been following this one for a while and have a few things to post.
Mystic Seaport does have the ship plans for the Desire:
DESIRE: Motorboat, Design #143B SHIPS PLANS 1912-04; 1912-09
6 sheets of plans for 90 ft. motorboat, DESIRE (built 1912), design #143B by Cox & Stevens, Inc. Dates on plans range from 04-1912 to 09-1912.
SP.1975.1.34.56
The listing below is from the 1917 Lloyds Register, this shows that 5 years after it is built is owned by Irving Cox, of Cox and Stevens.
His company must have chartered the boat in the winter as referenced by the attached 1917 New York Times article below.
The Detroit Yacht Club lists Lew F.R. Bellows as the Commodore in 1933.
Finally below is a biography on L.F.R.Bellows from the book The City of Detroit, Michigan, 1701-1922 |
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04-24-2012, 09:52 AM
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Good job digging that up ,Joe. I stand corrected that the boat is not a DeFoe.
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07-08-2012, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by viking 58 I have been following this one for a while and have a few things to post.
Mystic Seaport does have the ship plans for the Desire:
DESIRE: Motorboat, Design #143B SHIPS PLANS 1912-04; 1912-09
6 sheets of plans for 90 ft. motorboat, DESIRE (built 1912), design #143B by Cox & Stevens, Inc. Dates on plans range from 04-1912 to 09-1912.
SP.1975.1.34.56
The listing below is from the 1917 Lloyds Register, this shows that 5 years after it is built is owned by Irving Cox, of Cox and Stevens.
His company must have chartered the boat in the winter as referenced by the attached 1917 New York Times article below.
The Detroit Yacht Club lists Lew F.R. Bellows as the Commodore in 1933.
Finally below is a biography on L.F.R.Bellows from the book The City of Detroit, Michigan, 1701-1922 | Bellows is listed as owner in my 1935 LLoyd's , but her length is 94'-6" LOA. She likely was significantly modified and Defoe would be the logical place for a Detroiter to have the work done. She definitely had that Defoe look in your picture. I have a picture of her from an earlier period I can share.
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10-28-2012, 10:37 PM
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Viking 58
Sorry for being a year late on my reply but did not see your post. Could you please send me the photo you mentioned ?
Greg - at - gregbellows - dot - com
Thanks
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