[PropBet]

Loren-
What kind of scotch do you drink?

It would be nice, delightful in fact if members could stick to the topics at hand and leave their political thoughts, slants, bias, innuendos, slams, etc. out of it. YF is not the place for it. Period.

Sure, there are a variety of topics thrown around in the off topics area, however there's no real reason for lawn darting a thread with your political views or opinions.

I enjoy YF both as a boat owner, and an enthusiast, and respect those that contribute to the forums and make it a regular stop in my armchair travels. It provides me a relief with awesome reviews, photography, information and discussions about boats, and the random "hey, check out this _____ youtube, image, joke, etc."

Whatever you type, and before you hit "submit" remember this golden rule: The community in which you contribute to is only as good as the content created by the members" So ask yourself, "does this contribute or add value to the content of the community?"

The question isn't hard to answer.
Asking it, honestly, of yourself, is indeed the challenge.

I'll be topside if you need me. I hear there's booze and bikinis up there!

[dennismc]

Perfect, when the Government makes it almost impossible for people to enjoy yacht ownership (happened before , remember??) Luxury tax etc..and the yards and suppliers are suffering, lets not get involved on here, after all, when the yards and suppliers are hurting, the ows crowd will cheer and we will stand silent at the graveside, too political correct to post anything.

[Norseman]

I'll be topside if you need me. I hear there's booze and bikinis up there!

Be right there, don't go anywhere...

[airship]

Fed up with politics on a supposed 'Yacht' Forum

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Like many, I signed on here to learn about and lend my knowledge about boat-related topics.

It seemed to start down in the Yacht Club section and has now made its way to the General Discussion area--the endless politicization of any and all topics....not to mention the personal attacks which would get one cold-cocked in any bar.

Yo, guys, we all know who the lefty liberals and argumentative clueless types are around here. Give it a rest...[/QUOTE]

Just who are all these "lefty liberals and argumentative clueless types"? Would you care to explain in more detail how you yourself perhaps "can't or won't" contribute anymore? Was / is YF dedicated to the opposite of all those "lefty liberals and argumentative clueless types"?

So far as I'm concerned, some threads posted by I]the opposite[/I] of all those "lefty liberals and argumentative clueless types" automatically invite contary arguments, especially when these concern taxes whether or not specifically aimed at owners, crews or the industry in general.

I'd much prefer if over-sensitive subjects (ie. my boat's bigger than yours, or I'm more expert than you are", be moved from "general yachting discussion" to a more appropriate YF forum as the YF moderators deem fit. I think that currently YF mods don't always find the time to sort out what threads in the "general yachting discussion" forum better belong to another YF forum, such as technical discussion etc.

However (and a personal request, which I hope other YF contributors might second) - it would be nice to think that once a thread was transferred (or originally posted) to "the YF Yacht Club" forum, YF mods and all contributors would henceforth consider contributions to these threads as offering YF members an opportunity "to let their hair down, allow the legal consumption of alcoholic beverages whilst posting, and otherwise hang-out like you might in a place and with friends you're comfortable with", forgetting that you're CEO of FEADSHIP or other corporation for a few moments...?! YF mods would only intervene when/if Donald Rumsfeld starts harking on about his experience of yacht-ownership.

[Laurence]

Originally Posted by Norseman

Be right there, don't go anywhere...

I agree, it should be about boats, buoys, & bikinis.

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by mysue

Agree 100% plus. Some people seem to have no life other than posting and the snipping a sarcasim have gone way to far. When you have made 4000 to 15000 posst, perhaps one needs a life.

I'll guess this is directed at me, the one who "needs a life". I work my tail off 5 months a year (on the water), work hard 2 more months (on the water), then get the winter off. In my off time, well this morning I was out riding in 16* to give a flag line and MC escort to a Viet Nam Vet on his final mission and will be back out tonight to greet and give a MC escort to a Marine coming home from Afghanistan for his first Christmas home in 7 years. Enough of a life? I contribute often to YF because, as a professional mariner, boats are my life and YF is good place to learn and to pass on what I've learned in over 50 years on the water. It p--ses me off when people use YF for political propaganda, and it will not go unanswered. As for being a lefty-liberal, you are so incredibly far off let me just suggest you never claim to be a navigator, however I am Independent. So how about we all just watch for those words, and when we're tempted to write something including them...don't. That's how YF can best serve the boating public.

[YachtForums]

Originally Posted by airship

I think that currently YF mods don't always find the time to sort out what threads in the "general yachting discussion" forum better belong to another YF forum, such as technical discussion etc.

I'm going to take exception with this. And responsibility. I've been a little side-tracked recently, but I move threads every day. Matter of fact, THIS thread started life in the Yacht Club, but I moved it to the General Discussion. And every day - without fail - Lars, Kevin or myself take out the trash (sorta speak). You guys just don't see it.

Originally Posted by airship

it would be nice to think that once a thread was transferred (or originally posted) to "the YF Yacht Club" forum, YF mods and all contributors would henceforth consider contributions to these threads as offering YF members an opportunity "to let their hair down...

As it should be! But sometimes, each of us gets blinded by passion in the pursuit of excellence or opinion. There's an old saying... "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all". However I like my own saying better, as it applies to our virtual world... "one day, you may actually meet me. And I'm bigger than you!"

Let's keep it real folks. Behind these screen names are 'real folks'.

[Norseman]

one day, you may actually meet me. And I'm bigger than you!

6'2" and 230 lbs, and looking forward to meeting you..

I agree, it should be about boats, buoys, & bikinis.

Spot on, lets go back to the important stuff.

[YachtForums]

Originally Posted by Norseman

6'2" and 230 lbs, and looking forward to meeting you..

We have similar stats Dag, but I have to wonder... how do you fit into the cockpit of a 747?

[Loren Schweizer]

Originally Posted by airship

"... explain in more detail how you yourself perhaps "can't or won't" contribute anymore?"

I, myself, will of course contribute well after you're gone from these pages... was it the booze that caused you to make such an odd statement?

Originally Posted by airship

"YF mods would only intervene when/if Donald Rumsfeld starts harking on about his experience of yacht-ownership."

At least Rummy would be offering value and yacht content to YF.

If I were feeling charitable, I'd suggest taking up a collection for an extra-large box of dots so there'd be more for you to connect.

Cheers!

[Norseman]

We have similar stats Dag, but I have to wonder... how do you fit into the cockpit of a 747?

Heavy Jet, Heavy pilot...

Nah, don't fly 747s anymore.
Now on the 767, plenty of room, but I don't want to fly no 737 or Learjet, would not fit in there at all..

Back in the old days when I lived on a sailboat in the Virgin Islands I flew DC-3s, Twin Otters and other prop-jobs and had no problems in the smaller cockpits...Guess the airplanes shrank like my uniform pants over the years.

[sunchaserv]

As a Newbie poster to this site all I can say is political jabbing seems to rule the internet. Sign out of here if you want but the next forum will be just as rife if not more so with political BS.

It will only get worse as November 2012 approaches. So type/think as if your 5th grade teacher is looking over your shoulder.

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by sunchaserv

So type/think as if your 5th grade teacher is looking over your shoulder.

Well said, however I'd say to do it as if your children and grandchildren were looking over your shoulder (and they may be).

[RER]

Originally Posted by sunchaserv

...So type/think as if your 5th grade teacher is looking over your shoulder.

Originally Posted by NYCAP123

...I'd say to do it as if your children and grandchildren were looking over your shoulder (and they may be).

So, you want this forum to operate at a level within the sensibilities of children? That should clean house pretty quickly... of everyone.

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by RER

So, you want this forum to operate at a level within the sensibilities of children? That should clean house pretty quickly... of everyone.

You know, not doing anything you'd be ashamed to have your kids know about is not a bad goal. Of course not attainable, but a pretty good goal. It's hard to be less than the best you can be in front of kids.