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Old 08-28-2011, 02:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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New member - Advice needed

Hello everyone,

I am a new member to this forum and very glad to be here. Looking forward to contribute, exchange and learn. All while having fun doing so.

After spending some time on different friend's yachts, my wife and I decided to get our own.

We are looking for a ~100 feet size; big enough to accommodate on long trips with a crew in the Mediterranean region between the different countries.

[I'll be honest, I (we) know absolutely nothing about yachts.]

We went over several yacht makers' website and although there seem to be plenty (too many?) choices, so far, the Azimut Leonardo 100 and the Sunseeker Predator 92 Sport caught our attention.

Is there anything else out there you would recommend?

ps: We will attend the Salon Nautique in Cannes this September to get to see the yachts up close and start our venture to buy one and be on the sea (asap).

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Old 08-28-2011, 02:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to YF Hovy. Wow, is that ever an open-ended question with just too many correct answers to do you much good, even in just that style. Two suggestions I'll make are: first, that you do some chartering to get more of a feel for the life before plunking down a few million $. Second that you search the threads here about 'New boater, new owner, thinking of buying, cost of ownership, etc., etc.' There has been so much written that it could keep you busy for months. The good, the bad and the ugly has all been written about here.
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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We are looking for a ~100 feet size; big enough to accommodate on long trips with a crew in the Mediterranean region between the different countries.

...so far, the Azimut Leonardo 100 and the Sunseeker Predator 92 Sport caught our attention.
Hi, these are not typical long range cruisers. If you can, I would recommend a visit to the Genua Boat Show as well.
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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@ NYCAP123: Chartering one prior to buying one is, indeed, an excellent idea. Having spent several days (and once a full week) on a friend's yacht, the "feel" is already there.

@ AMG: Good to know about their range. I will attend the Genoa (and Dubai) boat shows as well.

Thank you for the feedback gentlemen. There is, undeniably, a whole lot to learn.

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Old 08-28-2011, 04:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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@ NYCAP123: Chartering one prior to buying one is, indeed, an excellent idea. Having spent several days (and once a full week) on a friend's yacht, the "feel" is already there.

@ AMG: Good to know about their range. I will attend the Genoa (and Dubai) boat shows as well.

Thank you for the feedback gentlemen. There is, undeniably, a whole lot to learn.

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How are you planning on using the yacht, how long do you plan to be onboard at a time, how many guests during these trips, how far do you plan on traveling, what ammenities and activities do you enjoy?
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Old 08-28-2011, 05:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Take a look at Westports and Lazzaras.
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How are you planning on using the yacht, how long do you plan to be onboard at a time, how many guests during these trips, how far do you plan on traveling, what ammenities and activities do you enjoy?
How? = Not exactly sure what you mean.

How long? = few days to 1-2 weeks (likely more)

Guests? = 2-6

How far? = Yacht will be accosted in Beirut, Lebanon. Would like to navigate the Mediterranean Sea (Cyprus, Turkey, Greece (maybe further?)) with several stops.

Amenities/activities? = Would like to have a small motor boat on board along with 1 or 2 jet skis. Activities will include (but not limited to) water sports.

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Take a look at Westports and Lazzaras.
Didn't know Lazzaras. Particularly like the LSX 92 and 120.
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Old 08-29-2011, 10:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Westport would be well worth a look. (98 or the 112) Great tooth cutting boat. Good friends with a captain on a 112, which he speaks highly of the boat in most every scenario. They're a little wet in a head sea but the fit, finish, quality, layout etc. is very well done for the price point and an easy boat to cut your teeth on. Westport's customer service is also outstanding.

Depending on your use and likes / dislikes, it may be worth a look and spend some time on. They charter frequently at a fair price point as well. Particularly in the current market.

I'd also consider Ocean Alexander with their larger offerings that have splashed. Nothing in the >100 range (yet), but their '90 Motoryacht is another very well thought out boat. Different in style and function than the Westport, so worth a comparison look if she catches your eye.

Best of luck to you and welcome to the forum. There is a wide and deep breed of knowledge here. Don't be afraid to ask questions!
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Thank you PropBet & gents.

Another question: what speed should I be looking for? Some go up to 40 knots while others 30 and less.
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Thank you PropBet & gents.

Another question: what speed should I be looking for? Some go up to 40 knots while others 30 and less.
How deep is your checkbook?
Speed is entirely dependent on your desire. Do you want (or need) something that does 30 knots? And are you willing to pay for it, up front, and after 1000 nautical miles of sailing? The latter being the pivotal strike. The faster you go, the more fuel you'll burn (for the lack of a perhaps lengthy debate). >30 kts and +/- 100' of boat is going to narrow your search down considerably.

I'm happy at 15 to 18 knots with the kids and family on board. If we need to push the sticks and beat bad weather, then we pay for it at 2X the burn rate.
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Thank you PropBet & gents.

Another question: what speed should I be looking for? Some go up to 40 knots while others 30 and less.

That depends on how much money you are willing to pay in fuel per hour and what kind of range you want for the boat. Also some of the faster large boats are not the most comfortable when it's rough. And you have to slow down anyway.
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IF speed is what you want

Come on you guys!! Give him some GOOD advice:

Hovy, Look at the 42 meter "the worlds not enough".
She'll get you there quick at 60+ knots.

Good luck with your search!
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Checkbook is open. I am considering a yacht that can go up to 30 knots. So far, the Lazzara LSX 92 is in our top choices but it's too soon to decide. Decision will be made after the upcoming boat shows and going to see the LSX 92 in person.

ps: LSX 92's 4 Volvo IPS drives seems to consume less fuel, emits less vibration and noise. How true is it? Any idea/opinion/feedback on the "better" systems/motors?
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Checkbook is open. I am considering a yacht that can go up to 30 knots. So far, the Lazzara LSX 92 is in our top choices but it's too soon to decide. Decision will be made after the upcoming boat shows and going to see the LSX 92 in person.

ps: LSX 92's 4 Volvo IPS drives seems to consume less fuel, emits less vibration and noise. How true is it? Any idea/opinion/feedback on the "better" systems/motors?
Here are a few links to keep the mind occuppied, prior to the boat shows:


http://www.charterworld.com/index.ht...t-lsx--sb-5858 Checkbook is open.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hpNduXi4Yc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJv3iGmI8NA

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/te...-cmd-zeus.html

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/te...erheating.html

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/te...ash-video.html

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/la...-lsx-92-a.html

http://www.lsx92.com/
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