| |  | Louvred Doors |  | |
05-26-2011, 08:37 PM
|
#1 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sag Harbor, NY
Posts: 122
| Louvred Doors
I've been taking care of the varnish on a 1987 Viking for 10 years and last summer, finally, was forced to strip a set of louvred teak bi-fold doors that access the outside bar...
After years of being babied and touched up here and there, the doors finally needed to be stripped to bare and re-done as there were just too many areas needing repair.
I used a gel stripper to remove the varnish from all the nooks and crannies, rinsed the doors with water, and left them in my workshop while we went to work that day...
Bad news.
That was late last summer up here in the Hamptons and it was, like, 90% humidity every day. By the time I came back about 10 hours later, the doors were COMPLETELY MOLDY!!!
I figured, no problem, a little Snappy Teak and I'd be ready to sand and lay on a sealer coat.
Yeah. Right.
It must not have been mold, but fungus and it was grown deep into the teak.
I 2 parted the doors; first diluted, then full strength. Nothing.
I bleached the doors full strength. Nothing.
I used that Mex phospate stuff WITH bleach. Nothing.
I used a palm sander w/ 80 grit. Nothing. (Well, not exactly nothing. I'm sure I could have gotten it all out but the doors would have been see through! Plus, there was no way to get at all of the mold on each of the slats.)
So, I figured I'd just RE-MAKE the doors! How hard could that be? After all, I'm not a woodworker and I'd never made anything out of ANY wood, much less than teak!
So I ordered $500 worth of teak and started to ask around some expert wood worker guys out here and...everyone told me I was crazy and what a nightmare louvred doors were...GREAT!
So after being down in Ft. Lauderdale all winter, I had to tackle the doors when I got back last month.
Took me a week to get the jig right (our shop tools just weren't precise enough) and practiced on a bunch of plywood, but I think they came out all right...for a first try, anyway.
Luckily the owner isn't that meticulous and probably won't notice all the minor faults.
First image is old door with mold/fungus.
Second image is new door w/ only sealer coat of varnish.
Pair of new doors.
New door clamped up.
New door pieces.
|
| |
05-26-2011, 08:43 PM
|
#2 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sag Harbor, NY
Posts: 122
|
The jig and the slats in the test pieces of ply...
|
| |
05-26-2011, 09:12 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
| | Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: East central Florida
Posts: 194
|
Looks like you've missed your calling. Very nice work, especially for a first time effort!
|
| |
05-26-2011, 09:18 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sag Harbor, NY
Posts: 122
|
Measure 29 times, cut 2 or 3...
|
| |
05-26-2011, 10:48 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: SE Asia
Posts: 325
|
Nice work.
A bit late now but have heard that treating mold/ vermin etc with ozone is very effective. I haven't seen it myself but know that there are companies treating infested houses with pure O2. Seems to kill eveything including fungi and molds.
|
| |
05-26-2011, 11:57 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
| | Registered User
Join Date: May 2007 Location: Land locked in woodland Hills
Posts: 67
|
For your nest stripping job; use paint thinner to clean off the stripper instead of water, you won't have the issue with mold. You did a great job on the doors, hang out a shingle as a ships carpenter.
Steve
|
| |
05-27-2011, 07:59 AM
|
#7 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sag Harbor, NY
Posts: 122
|
I should have thought of the paint thinner...
I do lots of varnish and I've got gallons of it!
|
| |
05-27-2011, 08:21 AM
|
#8 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: My Office
Posts: 5,383
|
Hi,
Looks good.
How did you machine all the recesses for the slat ends into the vertical pieces?
|
| |
05-27-2011, 09:13 AM
|
#9 (permalink)
| | Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 97
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by K1W1 Hi,
Looks good.
How did you machine all the recesses for the slat ends into the vertical pieces? | I would quess he used a router
|
| |
05-27-2011, 09:58 AM
|
#10 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: My Office
Posts: 5,383
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by JustMag I would quess he used a router | Hi,
No **** Batman, I was wondering how he got them so straight and even.
|
| |
05-27-2011, 10:58 AM
|
#11 (permalink)
| | Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Cincinnati
Posts: 97
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by K1W1 Hi,
No **** Batman, I was wondering how he got them so straight and even. | measure twice.........cut once |
| |
05-27-2011, 08:29 PM
|
#12 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sag Harbor, NY
Posts: 122
|
There was A LOT more measuring than once!
As the tools in my brother's shop were less than the most precise, the jig pictured is the 3rd one - each one more precise than the previous. Having now done a little research, an Incra table saw/router fence system would have done just nicely...
Yes, I used a router! No ****, Sherlock!
I found a YouTube video where that guy Norm from "This Old House" just happened to make a jig for...louvred doors! Unfortunately, he only demonstrated the basic principal and not any of the math needed to actually figure the where to drill, how far to cut the slots, etc.
Lots of scrap plywood! At least, now it is!
|
| |
05-27-2011, 08:36 PM
|
#13 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sag Harbor, NY
Posts: 122
|
@Kiwi
Slots were made by first carefully drilling holes with a drill press, extending lines at the angle I had determined the slats needed to be, and then very, very carefully cutting them on a band saw.
I could have set up the miter guide for the band saw, but the band saw blade still had bend in it and wasn't coming out too accurately that way so I took a flyer and did it all by hand.
After the band saw, a careful sanding of each slot w/ 80 grit on a stick to even out the slots.
The trick was to have both halves of the jig screwed together so any cut/modification to one was simultaneously made to the other in the exact same way.
By carefully using my (new) Bosch plunge router, I was able to follow just one side of the slot and keep the halves (almost) perfectly matched...
|
| |
05-28-2011, 01:10 AM
|
#14 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: My Office
Posts: 5,383
|
Hi,
Thanks for the info.
I am fascinated by woodwork and to see something that tricky that looks that good done by a non woodworker is always encouraging.
|
| |
05-28-2011, 11:48 AM
|
#15 (permalink)
| | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Is Everything!
Posts: 1,320
|
For a first whack, that sure is a heck of a fine job.
Next time, (should there be one) let me know and I'll show you how to make a template in which you'll use to cut both the louvers and the recesses where they go using your router and template bushings to match. It's almost brainless once you get the template and cutting jig setup.
Once again, very nice work for a first go at it.
|
| | |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are EST. The time now is 01:11 AM. | |