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Old 04-04-2007, 08:51 AM   #16
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I think YF member MedRascal has one of the larger Cheoy Lee MotorSloopers. Hopefully he'll see this thread and chime in...
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Old 04-04-2007, 09:48 AM   #17
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I think YF member MedRascal has one of the larger Cheoy Lee MotorSloopers. Hopefully he'll see this thread and chime in...
But please Carl, what is a MotorSlooper
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:30 PM   #18
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But please Carl, what is a MotorSlooper

One stick = "motorslooper"

Two sticks = "ketcherslooper"

Right proper nautical terminology!
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Old 04-05-2007, 01:31 PM   #19
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Or is that a "motorketcher"?
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Old 04-06-2007, 10:04 AM   #20
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Alden 57 Motor Sailer

Okay, its time for a beautiful Alden design, although a little short on sailing potential. But look at the lines of this vessel, and the very comfortable living space. I almost bought one of these recently.

From Rudder mag;
Mr. Brandt of Massachusetts, is a man who wants to go places, safely and comfortably Alden was commissioned to design the vessel to do this, and the result is shown here. The Lazy Lady is Alden’s idea a modern, oceangoing power cruiser.

She was built by the Bass Harbor Boat Shop of Bernard, Maine and thus far has lived up to her owners expectations. Powered by a 220 hp. Cummins diesel engine, she can cruise continually at better than 10 knots. Corten steel fuel tanks holding 1,060 gallons provide a cruising range of 2,000 miles.

Below, she has three staterooms sleeping six plus crews quarters for two. Mr. Brandt specified a large saloon, and this one fills the bill. It opens directly into a deep after cockpit that is, in effect, a continuation of the saloon.

The sails are strictly secondary propulsion. 613 square feet in area, they are to be used for steadying, emergencies, and for helping out the engines on long passages. She is not to be considered a motor sailer, but rather a cruiser capable of handling long distances on bumpy oceans
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Old 04-08-2007, 07:54 PM   #21
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I think YF member MedRascal has one of the larger Cheoy Lee MotorSloopers. Hopefully he'll see this thread and chime in...

I belive its my 78 you're reffering to...

http://www.cheoyleeassociation.com/a_modelsgraphic.htm

I had her delivered in 1995 and sailed here happily since then! She was the third and last to be delivered. Her two other sisterships where lauched in 1988 & 1989.
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Old 04-08-2007, 08:37 PM   #22
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I am actually surprised that only 3 of the 78's were built.

I remember when they first came out, I was running a 63 ft Cheoy Lee Motorsailor at the time, and the owner had expressed an interest in going to the larger one.

It seemed they had all the good characteristics of the 63, in a larger package.
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:18 PM   #23
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When my client was in the market, he had a choice of two of the 78s: "Tarot of Jersey" had the dark hull, and "Quixote" had white topsides. Both were in South Florida at the time. He bought the latter amidst the replacement of the main bulkhead which was supervised by Steve Seaton at Derector's.
Then, there was this mystery 78, the third one, owned by some Italian guy...

MedRascal, the owner of one of my 63s ( "Blackship" ) met up with you in the Med about six (?) years back... said you circled each other, said "hi" and then went on your separate ways.

Small world.

By the way, that 63 handled nicely around the docks. The 78, in my experience, requires a lot of planning when in close quarters.
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:45 PM   #24
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When my client was in the market, he had a choice of two of the 78s: "Tarot of Jersey" had the dark hull, and "Quixote" had white topsides. Both were in South Florida at the time. He bought the latter amidst the replacement of the main bulkhead which was supervised by Steve Seaton at Derector's.
Then, there was this mystery 78, the third one, owned by some Italian guy...

MedRascal, the owner of one of my 63s ( "Blackship" ) met up with you in the Med about six (?) years back... said you circled each other, said "hi" and then went on your separate ways.

Small world.


I guess I'm that Italian guy then... Never thought I was a mystery!

Yes, I remeber the "Blackship" encounter, it was outside of the Porto Vecchio bay, in South Corsica!!! Its indeed a small world!

Previous my current 78' (hull #4562) I had a 63' delivered in 1991 that was hull #4413. I sailed 4 seasons on the 63' before moving up to the 78'. I bought both my boats from a broker based in Palma that back then was the European dealer for Cheoy Lee. Shame that today they stopped the sailing range ...

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By the way, that 63 handled nicely around the docks. The 78, in my experience, requires a lot of planning when in close quarters.

True! Experienced from the 63', I had my 78' fitted with a 30Hp hydraulic bowthruster while under construction...
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Old 04-09-2007, 05:34 PM   #25
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I had always attributed the good handling of the 63 to the reversing props which gave the same bite in forward as in reverse.
I remember putting that boat in and out of some pretty tight spots that earned me kudos for the old timers watching me. Little did they know that the boat handled so well it made me look good.
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Old 04-09-2007, 05:51 PM   #26
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I had always attributed the good handling of the 63 to the reversing props which gave the same bite in forward as in reverse.

I had a bad accident on my former 63' with its reversing props... their reaction time when you need to switch from fwd to reverse is terribly slow bringing the action need late to avoid the accident.

I had them eliminated during the building of my current 78' installin fixed ones. It gives more drag when sailing, (to avoid this, i keep engines running even while sailing) but at least, the responce while manouveing is in "real time"...

For what I know, over 25 Cheoy Lee 63 MS were built in spite of only three 78s. Strange that in spite of many owners moved from the CL 52 to the 63, almost none besides me, moved from the 63 to the 78...
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:51 PM   #27
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Brian,

What do you think of the new Island Packet SP Cruiser motorsailor? I know she's a lot smaller than the beautiful boats you have shown us, but it seems there are a few modern motorsailors cropping up.
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:45 AM   #28
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Some things just don't fit into tidy little boxes, so I apologize for my lack of thread continuity in advance. Today, my younger sister died from the complications associated with her chemo threapy. (Our metabolism is probably much the same, mind you I never go out for fast food.) The odd thing is that I had fore-knowledge, since way back in '72. This came from an elderly African-American, widely known in the Delta for being a faith-healer and a seer.

She told me I would die just after my sister, (but didn't make reference to which one.) In fact, she didn't say the date, only that I would have a heart attack at age 55. From that day forward, I have never forgotten a menacing, recurring dream, always repeating the number 6/01/09. -Just before I turn 56! I say all this just in case anyone wonders why I'm ready to hit the high seas, and rediscover my roots in some place like Bali.

On a sad, minor chord, Kurt Vonnegut also died today. He was a really old codger. Always true to form, but somewhat less effective as time wore on. I always liked his futuristic predictions, until they started coming true.

That's pretty much why I haven't been myself lately. And I won't have much time to correspond for a while. Thanks for your blessings. Happy sailing.

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Old 04-12-2007, 09:54 AM   #29
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Max, for myself and others, condolences for your loss.

As for Mr. Vonnegut---and I've been a longtime fan-- his chain smoking of Pall Malls finally overcame a huge heart.

As for you, my friend, I have seen folks worrry themselves to death; don't be one of them.
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Old 04-12-2007, 10:27 AM   #30
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Max, for myself and others, condolences for your loss.
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Max, extended road trips always worked for me.
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