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11-18-2005, 01:53 PM
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#1 | | Registered User
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| Legacy on the Hard
Found this picture on another forum but little info. Apparently the SY Legacy (Perini Navi) caught in hurricane Wilma stranded in the FL Keys several hundred yards from deep water and with a destroyed rig. Has anyone heard anything about this. Am deeply curious to know whether and how they have/will get this boat off the sand.
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11-21-2005, 07:16 AM
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| http://www.elandar.com/back/spring01...ntrapment.html
the Halmos family apparently own the boat and the link is a sensational story, but not sure how true it is about the family!
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11-21-2005, 08:25 AM
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One question about the pic... where's the keel? |
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11-21-2005, 11:37 AM
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| Interesting Article
HLBeckley,
Thanks for that interesting link. As you say, sensational.
Kevin,
I assume that the boat is a centerboard vessel but one would presume that some part of the keel housing is buried in the sand.
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11-21-2005, 11:45 AM
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Buried, and sucked in.  Ouch.
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11-21-2005, 12:37 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by YachtForums Anyone want to speculate on HOW a salvage crew will convert this sandcastle into a sailboat again? |
Ok. Speaking as a total amateur  , I would stabilize it by surrounding it with floation bags. Then inject high pressure water under the hull to break it free. Then tow out to deeper water. Then recover with a conventional barge and crane(s).
Not a pretty sight,
Kelly
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11-21-2005, 12:49 PM
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I checked out the Perini Navi site, and I don't see any info about what the bottom of Legacy looks like... fin keel, centerboard, etc. Either way, there's a hefty (and heavy) chunk of yacht buried in what is evidently very soft sand.
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11-21-2005, 12:52 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by KCook Ok. Speaking as a total amateur  , I would stabilize it by surrounding it with floation bags. Then inject high pressure water under the hull to break it free. Then tow out to deeper water. Then recover with a conventional barge and crane(s). |
That would be a solution *IF*... she wasn't several hundred yards away from deep water. It was the storm surge that carried her into the flats. Can't duplicate that by other means. A full-moon, high tide might help, but it's doubtful the keel could be raised above the reef's sub-surface level.
Anyone else have an idea? CH-47 Chinook? Sikorsky Skycrane? Probably not. Dredge a path?
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11-21-2005, 12:58 PM
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#9 | | YF Moderator
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CH-47 Max Payload: 10,000 pounds
Skycrane Max Payload: 20,000 pounds
We're still short.
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11-21-2005, 05:23 PM
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One way to avoid dredging a trench for the keel would be to let the yacht flop over on one side. Then drag it across while still laying on it's side. As I said, not a pretty sight.
Kelly
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11-21-2005, 06:23 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by YachtForums Anyone else have an idea? CH-47 Chinook? Sikorsky Skycrane? Probably not. Dredge a path? |
I'm thinking shaped charge, rocket sled, and tonnes of vasaline.
I'd have it out in a jiffy. |
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11-23-2005, 05:27 PM
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Any more info on how they will save "Legacy" ?
Do you think that the shipyard could get involved to salvage one of thier "creatures" ?
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11-23-2005, 06:35 PM
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This would be a piece of cake. Just put out some steelramps to land a sublift on. Ferry and drive it to the boat, lift her gradually in the sublift and drive her back to deep water...
Maybe there are no such high capacity sublifts available yet, but it can not be too hard to build within a month or two...?
Here are PDF-drawings on a 300-tonnes from Anytec in Sweden. http://www.anytec.se/filarkiv/GA-1300.pdf |
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12-09-2005, 04:38 PM
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Call Resolve!
Bet they already have.
Perini's generally are a keel-centerboard arrangement.
Dave
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12-13-2005, 11:42 AM
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| Salvage
No way to float/move Legacy without destroying even more of the 'marine sanctuary' with endangered/protected wildlife and coral... No way the environmentalist and govt agencies will allow..
Checking details on sisterships which have been listed for sale, estimate the displacement around 1MM pounds...
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