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04-03-2009, 12:12 PM
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I'd refuse bail and use a legal aid on that one. I'd save my attorney for the suit. That would mean that the new salesperson a broker hires has to refuse to even give the listing price of a boat until they've aquired their brokers license. Paid to twiddle thumbs for how long? Sounds like a good gig. In fact that would make it technically illegal for a magazine or website to post a price on a boat someone was selling unless they held a brokers license.
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04-03-2009, 12:45 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by NYCAP123 In fact that would make it technically illegal for a magazine or website to post a price on a boat someone was selling unless they held a brokers license. |
Hi,
I wonder how this affects the boats listed on this website for sale by non brokers? Part of the Rules is the price must be posted.
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04-03-2009, 01:06 PM
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The Dept. has been known to send agents disguised as buyers to boat shows, and when they ask the boarding gal or captain the price of the vessel, they're busted for brokering.
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I've been to a lot of boat shows and never saw anyone dragged off in cuffs for telling someone how much a boat was listed for. I'd be interested if anyone can come up with any case law on this.
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04-03-2009, 01:15 PM
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The 2008 Florida Statutes
Title XXIV
VESSELS Chapter 326
YACHT AND SHIP BROKERS View Entire Chapter
326.002 Definitions.--As used in ss. 326.001-326.006, the term:
(1) "Broker" means a person who, for or in expectation of compensation: sells, offers, or negotiates to sell; buys, offers, or negotiates to buy; solicits or obtains listings of; or negotiates the purchase, sale, or exchange of, yachts for other persons
Guess we can cancel our reservations at the gray bar hotel.
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04-03-2009, 01:32 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by NYCAP123 I'd refuse bail and use a legal aid on that one. I'd save my attorney for the suit. That would mean that the new salesperson a broker hires has to refuse to even give the listing price of a boat until they've aquired their brokers license. Paid to twiddle thumbs for how long? Sounds like a good gig. In fact that would make it technically illegal for a magazine or website to post a price on a boat someone was selling unless they held a brokers license. |
Paid to twiddle thumbs? I will take it. Brokers usually do not get paid until they sell something or one of their listings sells.
There are only two states that require licensing of brokers, Florida and California, in all other states anyone can be a broker. Also in Florida you do not need a license to sell new boats or boats less than 32 feet.
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04-25-2009, 12:14 PM
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I own a US built yacht, Canadian flagged and am Canadian resident.
Miami office of Homeland security renewed my annual cruising permit without the requirement of foreign port visit and 15 day gap.
Ft lauderdale office insists on the foreign visit.Miami does not.
Miami says the key to the non foreign visit is the boat being US built otherwise, go foreign.
Apparently each office has differing rules.
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04-25-2009, 06:37 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by dennismc I own a US built yacht, Canadian flagged and am Canadian resident.
Miami office of Homeland security renewed my annual cruising permit without the requirement of foreign port visit and 15 day gap.
Ft lauderdale office insists on the foreign visit.Miami does not.
Miami says the key to the non foreign visit is the boat being US built otherwise, go foreign.
Apparently each office has differing rules. |
I've gone over to the Bahamas for only 1 day and checked back in, in Fort Lauderdale and was issued a new cruising permit everytime on different vessels. I would walk in and check with them first, to find out the specifics.......
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04-27-2009, 08:55 PM
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| Quote: | Originally Posted by dennismc I own a US built yacht, Canadian flagged and am Canadian resident.
Miami office of Homeland security renewed my annual cruising permit without the requirement of foreign port visit and 15 day gap.
Ft lauderdale office insists on the foreign visit.Miami does not.
Miami says the key to the non foreign visit is the boat being US built otherwise, go foreign.
Apparently each office has differing rules. |
I renewed my cruising permit in West Palm Beach today. I was informed (by the agent who said she follows the rules by the book) that you have to leave the country for 15 days AFTER your permit expires unless:
~The boat is US Duty Paid
or
~The boat is US built
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