[Camargue44]

Hi, you can consider exactly what do you need. Italian boats have more space in the interior because of the not so V hull and they have plenty of space, on the other hand English boats such as Princess or Sunseeker(which i would prefer Sunseeker instead of Princess) have deep V hull that means less space in the interior but much better way acting on waves, but i believe that deeper V hull yachts have more fuel consumption. May i make some suggestions about yachts? well i say : Azimuth 55E, Manhattan 52 Sunseeker, Uniesse MY 53. But whatever you want to choose. Dont put the standar engines that they offer. choose engine that are suitable for the yacht so you wont have any problems about pressurize the engines if you are loaded. watch that please.

[AMG]

Originally Posted by Camargue44

...so you wont have any problems about pressurize the engines if you are loaded. watch that please.

Sorry, but I couldn´t resist to agree on that statement..

[hat4349]

Originally Posted by Camargue44
...so you wont have any problems about pressurize the engines if you are loaded. watch that please.

I understand about back pressure on the exhaust, the pressure in the engine cylinders, but I don't understand what you mean by this statement. Please explain for me, thanks.

[Ken Bracewell]

Originally Posted by Camargue44

so you wont have any problems about pressurize the engines if you are loaded.

I'd recommend staying tied to the dock when you're loaded, so I wouldn't worry about pressurizing the engines in that state of mind.

[CODOG]

Originally Posted by Ken Bracewell

I'd recommend staying tied to the dock when you're loaded, so I wouldn't worry about pressurizing the engines in that state of mind.

Being glued and screwed is fine when you are a boat, but not a boat user.

[CODOG]

Originally Posted by hat4349

I understand about back pressure on the exhaust, the pressure in the engine cylinders, but I don't understand what you mean by this statement. Please explain for me, thanks.

Owners can and do carry a load of gear and spares. Flybridge type yachts arguably allow a bit more room to do this. Some owners (not all) run the boat at heavier loads at full rpm. Some boats and propeller sizing (again, not all) are designed to run most efficiently at loads less than full to the gunwales. An engine choice can (not always) result in the engines being run at less than ideal loading factors for considerable lengths of time. Ignoring the intricacies of torque characteristics and specific power outputs, some would advocate speccing larger, more powerful engines to counteract this.
Some (not all) would agree.

[Camargue44]

Well what i mean is this. for example my Camargue 44 has 2 CAT engines of 425bhp each... the problem is that the yacht is heavy approx 16-17 tons fully loaded, and it goes with a cruising speed of 24-25 knots. When we are people inside with the tender and everything it goes slower of course. and the engines work at 2.400 rpm according to CAT at cruising speed. What i mean is that this engines are the lowest limit for this perticular yacht. I cant go faster on rpm because i will press the engines. But with a little bigger engines u can go like 28-30 knots fully loaded without having to press harder the engines. and i cant increase the rpm cause its bad for the engines so i have a speed approx to 23 knots. which is bad for a Yacht... plus the fact the the yacht on that perticular speed has not reached the correct speed to be parallel with the sea but the bow is higher... that means i have to put the flaps down so the bow lowers the angle.... but that ofc means more hull % in the water... lower speed... So please choose bigger engines instead what the company set as standar engines.

[Camargue44]

Can you please tell me how to contact you more private if possible? I have some questions about the occupation of Yacht designers generally. Thanks I mean for AMG

[Eiden]

I would go for the new Azimut 58. I read about it in MBY a few days ago and it seem's pretty pretty good, and looks great! Or i would go for the Azimut 55/50!

[Camargue44]

I agree with eiden... azimuth has a great design on her yachts... they are beautiful

[jserb]

I have been an Azimut fan for years and compared to Sunseeker and Fairline your getting a much more lavish yacht. As for the quality, i find that Fairline is top of the line followed by Azimut and Sunseeker. I would rate sunseeker and Azimuts quality equal. With this being said, why wouldn't you go for a yacht with style and comparable quality??? Azimut uses style blended with down right common since engineering to come up with amazing designs for there interiors. They are comfortable, stylish yachts that work just fine for most people. It all comes dow n to what your looking to do with your yacht. Where your looking to take it, and how you are planning on using it. Fairline, Hatteras, Burger, Betram, all are top of the line for sea worthiness. If your planning to be out deep at sea, I (the HUGE azimut fan) would not recomened an Azimut. However, a trip from Miami to the Bahamas would not be unreasonable for an Azimut and I personally would feel very comfortable in one @ that distance. But like i said i all comes down to where your going and how your going to use it Hatteras, Burger, Betrfam, Viking, are all exception high sea worthy yachts, however they lost that "style" that comfortable feeling and move more in to a more mechanical feeling yacht. Its all up to you, but if i were spending that kind of $ id go for the azimut any day!

And yes i do know what I am talking about, I am currently a Project Manager for Palmer Johnson.

[goplay]

I have a recent Azimut 62 currently and have put over 1500 nm on it in less than 1 year. I have been in conditions that had 35kn+ winds and 15ft+ waves. The boat has been great. I am looking to get something in the 80' range and I am inclined to stay with Azimut.

I do believe that Azimut has been building better boats in recent years. The newer the model, the better the design and manufacturing has been. They seem to try to pack too much though, on the smaller models (ie 43).

I think Fairline makes a very seaworthy boat, and relative to the smaller Azimuts, have a nicer finish using more wood. I personally think they are a little under capitalized as a boat company but that's a different topic.

I think Sunseeker has fallen off in quality, while Azimut has gone up. I had a close look at some new and recent Sunseekers and was pretty disappointed in the gel coat as well as finish carpentry. Door jams, for example, did not seem solid and would move under pressure. I found this consistently across their models (except for their big new 34m custom). That would make for a squeaky boat and perhaps doors that would need adjusting over time.

Lastly, I am very disappointed with Ferretti. They are definitely living on reputation. If you were looking at them without knowing the brand I think you'd be surprised it was a Ferretti. The quality is inconsistent through the boat, poor layout choices.... Way over priced. Even at the high end, comparing a Ferretti Custom Line to San Lorenzo for example, the SL is noticeably better finished.

My two cents!

[NYCAP123]

Originally Posted by newbienew

Hello everyone, I'm a newbie.

Thinking of purchasing flybridge in the 50's range(new).
Any recommendations? It doesn't have to be from above choices.
I would appreciate the reason for your choice.
Thank you very much.

I captain a 50' Viking SC 2002 (which is an upgraded Princess). Prior to that my employer had a 440 Carver . I have several friends with Azimut from 42' to 68', and have checked out the 65 Marquis and a friend captained for a 57 Marquis. Let me just say that after checking out the Viking (Princess) I heartily recommended it to him, and after about 55 days of cruising last summer we're both still very happy with that decission. It's a very good and seaworthy vessel. It's systems are dependable, very well thought out, with full redundency. In many ways she's overbuilt. I've had her in a 7' (2meter) quartering sea and been caught by a couple of 9 ' waves on the stern. She handled them fine. Her sharp entry handles on-coming seas better that some 65 footers I've captained.

[markg]

Originally Posted by newbienew

Hello everyone, I'm a newbie.

Thinking of purchasing flybridge in the 50's range(new).
Any recommendations? It doesn't have to be from above choices.
I would appreciate the reason for your choice.
Thank you very much.

Hi

My name is Mark.
I purchased a 50 ft manhattan new last year and found it to be a
great boat. eavery inch is utilized properly and the ride is smooth
If you would like to discuss my email is mgoodstadt@gmail.com

[Wilhelm]

Hi!

After all I heard about Italian yachts, I was sceptical about the workmanship of some big names.. I am currently crew on a 85' Azimut, 2006 model. everything is still good as new (Maintenance very important offcoarse!) and must say it is all round a masterpiece-Sporty, luxury etc.. Saw that the 45' or 49' (cant remember lol) won the boat of the year.. Must say something!!

Good luck in your search..