[georgew]

Aside from an extra dock box and a regular vehicle, a few liveaboards are a benefit for a marina. I'm not talking about a floating city of squatters in leaky old scows. What I mean is two or three high quality boats with liveaboard owners or crew. Having extra eyes and ears on the docks is great for security, emergencies and weather events.

A few responsible liveaboards are an asset and should be welcome anywhere. What is the official or unspoken policy at your docks? GW
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[AMG]

This is a grey zone, where the communities don´t like to get new residents with demands for all kinds of service which can be costly to supply. Like black-water to start with. Hooking up boats far out on piers and pontons to the land systems is not easy.

Having crew living onboard bigger yachts that can go out on a short notice is something different, and like in Monaco even mandatory.

In the future I guess we will see marinas purpose built for liveaboards as this might be an attractive lifestyle for the now retiring generations.

[OutMyWindow]

Originally Posted by georgew

A few responsible liveaboards are an asset and should be welcome anywhere. What is the official or unspoken policy at your docks? GW
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That is up to debate, here in Coal Harbour the couple that are still left are considered by many as eyesores. They have been "grandfathered" when the marina was built, and no doubt will disappear as time goes by.

The second series of photos, demonstrate a purpose built float home community consisting of architecturally designed two story homes with private docks for the homeowner's boat (pic courtesy of M.Jassak)

[mp-willow]

I would say yes, at the green and red house in the first pic. Do you know that Yacht behind it, with the EC-130 on deck?

I difference should be made of the float home or a Yacht who's crew/owner live own.

[AMG]

Originally Posted by mp-willow

Do you know that Yacht behind it, with the EC-130 on deck?

Yes; http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/fe...tessa-iii.html

[mp-willow]

Thanks

[cpt sparky]

Originally Posted by georgew

Aside from an extra dock box and a regular vehicle, a few liveaboards are a benefit for a marina. I'm not talking about a floating city of squatters in leaky old scows. What I mean is two or three high quality boats with liveaboard owners or crew. Having extra eyes and ears on the docks is great for security, emergencies and weather events.

A few responsible liveaboards are an asset and should be welcome anywhere. What is the official or unspoken policy at your docks? GW
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aside from past liveaboards who were too wild and inconsiderate ruining it for others it still is possible to have a marina welcome you back for another season to liveaboard,not only is it beneficial for the marina but for the boat owner as well

[Pascal]

first, some towns have zonings regs. that prohibits live aboards so it's not necesarily the marinas that don't like LA.

there are two types of LA. first those who chose to live on their boats as die hard boaters who want to enjoy their boats and being on the water even more. These usually keep cleaners/neater boats and docks, go out frequently. they're a big plus for the marinas since they keep an eye on things. I've often gotten on boats to adjust a line and prevent damaged, reported an alarm or fuel spill, etc... having a presence on teh dock also discourage theft.

then you have the guys who move on a boat becasue it can be a cheaper form of housing. Cheap boats that rarely leave the slip, junks on the deck, "stuff" on the dock...or even window air con in the cabin hatch! yuck. These guys give Liveaboard a bad name... and after a few bad experiences marinas may see them as more headaches than benefits.

on my pier there are about a dozen liveaboard out of 60 or so boats. most fall in the first group, although a couple never leave the dock.

[Capt J]

In addition to what everyone else said. Many liveaboards will pump sewage overboard at night if there isn't a pumpout that can reach the boat. The grey water scum floating around the marina every morning. Also the extra electrical and water demands (costs) to the marina's. Most marina's like liveaboards.

BUT, the cheapskate in the deralict boat that is an eyesore. You know, the one that hangs his laundry all over the deck, with more garbage on the deck then Sanford and Sons, ruins it for the good ones. Also, the one that doesn't obey the rules and has a charcoal grill on the dock that he lights when the marina workers go home. etc etc.Every marina seems to have at least one.

[Steve in SoCal]

In the Los Angeles area live aboard often means the worst imaginable scow in the marina. There are many folks who do live aboard for the love of the water but, because of the few aquatic vagabonds every dockmaster is leary of live aboards. In the areas you can live aboard you do pay higher slip fees and most of these areas have more washer/dryers, showers and services for the folks to use.

Here in L.A. the LA crowd runs the gambit from young guys on small Old Islanders and Ericksons to recently divorced guys on nice boats and families of every size. The hobo boats have been systematically targeted and condemned but a few more boats slip into this category on a frequent basis.

It only takes a few bad apples to ruin it for everybody and sadly we have plenty of em here.

Steve

[GFC]

In our area (Columbia River & Snake River) the waters are controlled by the Corps of Engineers. They have many regs that prohibit liveaboards on this section of the rivers.

Their control ends on the Columbia at Bonneville Dam. Below that lies the city of Portland, OR (along with many other cities) that has numerous liveaboard areas and is building more.

A govt agency tried to pass rules in the Seattle area that restricted liveaboards. The liveaboard owners got together and found the new rules and the court sided with the owners. The court basically said the govt had no authority to limit or control liveaboards in those coastal areas.