What is your favorite open sport yacht

DDD · 12-31-2007, 09:46 PM

I am looking at a project and like the azimut 103 and the PJ120

KCook · 01-02-2008, 01:55 AM

Welcome to YachtForums DDD.

Fun topic, but what context did you have in mind by "looking at a project"? So far as style goes, I think the PJ is hard to beat. But the big Bagliettos are also intriguing -

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/ba...tto-105-a.html

Kelly

Mov-it! · 01-02-2008, 06:13 AM

The PJ's have a great design although the salon is a little small for my taste.
Therefore you'll get a huge aft deck. It could also be build a little lighter. This would increase performance or give an equal performance with smaller engines. Darn Choices

The Baglietto 115 is nice too, but the design is a little over the top.

The PJ 120 Vanquish is for sale at €15mln ex VAT.
If you want to buy a PJ 120, prepare for a stiff waiting list.

Azimuth, Sunseeker etc are production yachts. A lot cheaper but simply not as refined.

At least Baglietto and PJ build in Aluminium.

charleskwinter · 01-02-2008, 06:43 AM

as always you will be also looking for reliability and quality. take a look at warren yachts. their s87 gets better with each one produced, and they are building a 120' similar to the pj. let me know if you want more info.

charlie

Mov-it! · 01-02-2008, 06:49 AM

Forgot to mention the dutch input.
Pantera 110

TK-F430 · 01-02-2008, 04:05 PM

Maybe a Pershing 115..........

Mov-it! · 01-02-2008, 06:41 PM

We have all mentioned the most obvious choices in the market, but we have also seen them hundreds of times.

Lets get to the drawing boards and make it an open design thread. Lars can be the judge! (we'll exclude him from participation because we wouldn't stand a chance

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AMG · 01-02-2008, 07:13 PM

Good idea! Not that I understand why they call this kind of boats Open, and not that I understand why they all look the same, but please go ahead!

(To me an open boat is open like this; http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/5743-post11.html )

Let´s make the rules simple; Just a profile, 100 feet, the typical hard top with no flybridge. Post your drawings here, no wider than the usual 640 p before Saturday the 12:th of January ....

Mov-it! · 01-03-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AMG

before Saturday morning CET....

Saturday morning?

I know that you can draw a profile in the same time a regular person visits the toilet, but saturday morning? I'll give it a shot.

I also have to prepare our stand for the Boot Düsseldorf this week, but there's nothing like a stiff dead-line.
FYI, I'll start from the waterline up, because I'm not a Naval Architect or designer.

Okay, lets look for some inspiration. Ah, this month's Playboy will do. always good to add some spicey curves to a design.

DDD · 01-03-2008, 11:11 PM

The original post is as a result of the demand of a new client. I have a few buyers that were mistreated by local Florida brokers and turned to me. This client is an athlete and want something with more space that will not look old next month. My original post was to see what design I should point him to. He loves the concept of the Azimut but not the quality.

KCook · 01-04-2008, 02:14 AM

"will not look old next month"

In that size, that may be a trick question. There are so few players with sportyachts that big, it's hard to see any trends.

Since my "rude" credentials are unquestioned, how about a flybridge that size, plus 40' zip boat for play?

Kelly

Mov-it! · 01-04-2008, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DDD

This client is an athlete and want something with more space that will not look old next month.

Maybe this would be the world's first yacht with an astro-turf deck?
You client obviously has his mind set on an Azimuth but than better.
I would suggest, if the brokers don't work, get a build consultant. I'm sure someone knows a good cosultant in the US.

If he's thinking about a custom build, prepare for twice the costs of the Azimuth. Whether the design will rapidly age is also something for your customer to judge. Aging of the design is always an issue with express cruisers. They are designed to appeal to people with a fast lifestyle. They aim for people that buy on impuls rather than experience. They are usually used for 3 to 4 years before they are thrown back on the market. My 2 cents would go to Palmer Johnson. It looks good, is properly build and is American which avoids shedding tears on Dollar depreciation.

Another contender in this segment is the Mangusta.

Good luck with the search

Mov-it! · 01-04-2008, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mov-it!

Forgot to mention the dutch input.
Pantera 110

I have to correct this reply. I spoke to the "former owner" of Pantera and he told me that the yard has gone bankrupt and is closed.

So lets get the Pantera out of the race.