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11-18-2010, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MyGrande Less than 1 million dollars is a boat
Longer than 1 million dollars is a yacht
Longer than 10 million dollars is a megayacht
Longer than 20 million dollars is a superyacht
Longer than 50 million dollars is a "WTF?! I'm so not washing that!" | Is that purchase price (used) or original retail price? A 6 year old million dollar yacht is about $500K. Welcome to YF. |
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01-17-2011, 09:29 PM
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This came up a while back. If it has a grand piano it's a yacht.
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01-27-2011, 12:13 AM
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this ha. s been an interesting thread. I remember we had a 42' Trojan flush deck back in the early 70's. It was considered a yacht. today, it would be considered a cruiser in my mind. I have a 54' convertable. I consider it a boat. if someone asked me today how I define a boat vs. a yacht (and nobody has) I would say if you are the owner AND captain, its a boat. if you have to have a crew to run it, its a yacht. also in my mind, this applies only to cruising boats/yachts. lots of guys that fish have full time captains, not so much because the owner cannot run the boat, but because he is engaged in the cockpit.
mega and giga yachts is a whole different animal. as is the point of when does a cruiser become a yacht.In my mind you can have a 82 foot convertible fishing BOAT that is not a yacht, yet have a 60 foot cruiser that is a yacht.
I think everyone BUT the owner decides if it is a baot or a yacht. we may stand at the dock and call a guys boat a boat while he thinks it is a yacht or vice versa. If it can be it's own country, it should be a yacht! just my 2 cents!
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01-28-2011, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 54' Bertram this ha. s been an interesting thread. I remember we had a 42' Trojan flush deck back in the early 70's. It was considered a yacht. today, it would be considered a cruiser in my mind. I have a 54' convertable. I consider it a boat. if someone asked me today how I define a boat vs. a yacht (and nobody has) I would say if you are the owner AND captain, its a boat. if you have to have a crew to run it, its a yacht. also in my mind, this applies only to cruising boats/yachts. lots of guys that fish have full time captains, not so much because the owner cannot run the boat, but because he is engaged in the cockpit.
mega and giga yachts is a whole different animal. as is the point of when does a cruiser become a yacht.In my mind you can have a 82 foot convertible fishing BOAT that is not a yacht, yet have a 60 foot cruiser that is a yacht.
I think everyone BUT the owner decides if it is a baot or a yacht. we may stand at the dock and call a guys boat a boat while he thinks it is a yacht or vice versa. If it can be it's own country, it should be a yacht! just my 2 cents! | I was the full time Captain and had a fulltime mate on a 45' Cabo once upon a time. I'd hardly call that a yacht, but the owner wanted a Captain and mate, and a pristine boat, even though he could proficiently run the boat if he wanted to. LOL
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01-28-2011, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Capt J I was the full time Captain and had a fulltime mate on a 45' Cabo once upon a time. I'd hardly call that a yacht, but the owner wanted a Captain and mate, and a pristine boat, even though he could proficiently run the boat if he wanted to. LOL | If he can afford it he sounds smart. I have a couple of guys who can and do run their own boats, but they like the security having someone backing them up who knows what's what and can take over when he wants to relax. They'd also like to pass on engine room checks, line handling, etc. and concentrate on the fun side.
Back when the L.I. Lolita thing was going on the news showed Joey's "yacht". it looked like about a 32 or 35' maybe Carver.  'It's all in the eye of the beholder'
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05-26-2011, 03:31 PM
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Terms and their meaning for floating devices that can carry/transport product or person, i.e. BOATS!
1. Raft – Floating platform made of buoyant material.
2. Dinghy – Small boat designed as a tender or lifeboat, especially a small ship's boat, rowed, sailed, or driven by a motor.
3. Runabout – Small pleasure motorboat.
4. Cabin cruiser – Power-driven pleasure boat having a cabin for sleeping, cooking, etc.
5. BOAT – Vessel for transport by water, constructed to provide buoyancy by excluding water and shaped to give stability and permit propulsion – THAT pretty much covers every floating device - LOL.
6. Yacht – Vessel used for private cruising, racing, or other noncommercial purposes. Sometimes called a BIG boat!
7. Luxury / Mega / Ultra / Biggest / Baddest - - > Yacht (or any other descriptive word you can think of for a private BOAT – LOL) – A vessel primarily used to impress oneself and as many others as possible!!
8. Ship – Vessel, especially a large oceangoing one employed by corporations or governments and propelled by sails or engines or “rowing-slaves” – LOL.
By any other word... a Boat is just that - A BOAT! In due respect; a Ship is just that - A SHIP!
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08-08-2011, 07:03 AM
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I had read long ago that if you live on your boat, it's a YACHT. Size doesn't matter |
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08-08-2011, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dominomarie I had read long ago that if you live on your boat, it's a YACHT. Size doesn't matter  | AGREED! |
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08-08-2011, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dominomarie I had read long ago that if you live on your boat, it's a YACHT. Size doesn't matter  | I've seen people living on 20' Sailboats.........I wouldn't exactly call that a yacht.
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08-08-2011, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Capt J I've seen people living on 20' Sailboats.........I wouldn't exactly call that a yacht. | It is to the guy with only an 8' pram, especially if it's got a galley & head.
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08-08-2011, 03:01 PM
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Greetings,
Well I think size doesn't matter. It's what you do with it that counts.
A la Wiki'.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yacht
Peter
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08-22-2011, 09:21 PM
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I have not read all the replys so maybe this has been mentioned already.
Despite what Wiki and Merriam say, I always thought the term Yacht has nothing to do with size but with self containment. Meaning if you can live on the boat in the middle of nowhere and be fully self contained i.e. Fresh water, generator, galley, head, sleeping quarters etc it's considered a yacht.
So, if you have a 70 foot twin diesel, but you don't have a generator on it (I know this is very unlikely) you technically do not have a yacht. This also works the other way, someone could have a 25 ft boat with a generator and water supply and even though it's small it is able to be self contained and considered a yacht. I'll be the first to say that calling a 25ft boat a yacht seems ridiculous but if it meets these requirements who am I to argue.
Many sailboats do not have generators. It's not unusual to find a beautiful 40 foot sailboat with two staterooms and two heads with a galley but no generator. The absence of the generator would take away the "yacht" designation.
Again, this is just what I've been lead to understand over the years. Seems many have a different opinion on it.
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08-22-2011, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Hattsoff I have not read all the replys so maybe this has been mentioned already.
Despite what Wiki and Merriam say, I always thought the term Yacht has nothing to do with size but with self containment. Meaning if you can live on the boat in the middle of nowhere and be fully self contained i.e. Fresh water, generator, galley, head, sleeping quarters etc it's considered a yacht.
So, if you have a 70 foot twin diesel, but you don't have a generator on it (I know this is very unlikely) you technically do not have a yacht. This also works the other way, someone could have a 25 ft boat with a generator and water supply and even though it's small it is able to be self contained and considered a yacht. I'll be the first to say that calling a 25ft boat a yacht seems ridiculous but if it meets these requirements who am I to argue.
Many sailboats do not have generators. It's not unusual to find a beautiful 40 foot sailboat with two staterooms and two heads with a galley but no generator. The absence of the generator would take away the "yacht" designation.
Again, this is just what I've been lead to understand over the years. Seems many have a different opinion on it. | The term yacht was describing vessels before there were generators. It was also used long before there were many large private boats floating around. Guess today the term means pretty much any boat you attach it to for whatever reason you want to attach it for, be it an 8' pram or the superyacht A .
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09-07-2011, 09:48 PM
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It's been said before to one degree or another, but I think ultimately it is up to the observer. My vessel is a yacht to some of my friends who have no vessel or a small 'bass boat', but is 'just a boat' to those who have physically larger vessels. Ask a hundred mariners and you'll likely get a hundred answers. I DO like the "over $50million" comment back a page or so tho... very creative!
Enjoy your vessel to it's fullest!
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09-10-2011, 05:10 PM
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I was the full time Captain and had a fulltime mate on a 45' Cabo once upon a time. I'd hardly call that a yacht, but the owner wante
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