[stevenpet]

Originally Posted by thebighawk

Take a look at new Christensen, Primadonna. Understated interior from Casino Royale

I couldn't find any pics of the Primadonna.

I'm avoiding too many broker contacts that this point since the few brokers that I have contacted are doing their jobs very well and sending me a barrage of emails and questions. In a few months, that is exactly what I would want them to do, but right now I’m just collecting information for my long list of possible yachts.

[Blair]

Originally Posted by Blair

Regarding T6, the Burgess site is limited in its detail but obviously an enquiry would provide more. There was a bit of a rave about the hanger in the blurb by the judges for the Superyacht of the Year award it gained in 2008 but no detail of course.

I did notice that Boat International and its sister publications carried a review on T6 in April 2007 with photographs of the helicopter hanger and tender bays.

I see the helicopter is a Eurocopter A350 B3 which is the high performance/high altitude version. The vessel carries an ice class spec and has about a 10,000+ range - also has bunkering for avgas all to allow everything to operate with limited reliance on port based services for long periods. Seems that this yacht is as much about what you cannot see than what is immediately apparent - no doubt with a price tag to match the inherent cost of that capability! Very much the uncompromising expression of a liveaboard owner with a sense of adventure to explore.

[travler]

steven

having owned boats that you describe my choices would be delta or feadship
you will find the helio is a good tool ,form my personal exp i would try and find a good capt that i was compatable with before i bought the boat

just my .02 travler

[stevenpet]

Thanks Traveler.

[Capt J]

Originally Posted by travler

steven

having owned boats that you describe my choices would be delta or feadship
you will find the helio is a good tool ,form my personal exp i would try and find a good capt that i was compatable with before i bought the boat

just my .02 travler

I've worked on boat a large Delta and a Feadship 160-172' range. I much preferred the Feadship over the Delta. The workmanship behind the joinery and stuff wasn't as clean as it should of been in some areas on the Delta. Also the entire A/C system on the Delta did not keep up with the Bahamian summer temperatures throughout the boat, even in the lower crew cabins. Feadship also had a much much better use of all space. There was a lot more storage space on the Feadship that Delta didn't utilize. The Delta was very nice, but didn't hold a candle to the Feadship.

[travler]

CAPT J

i think the quality of the feadship is un matched that's Y i owned one now that my need's arent as great and i stick to the left coast and run the boat my self i like the delta plus i spend a lot of time in seattle

smothe sailing travler

[YachtForums]

Feadship builds a fine boat, but there are other yards building equally nice yachts for a lot less money. I've said this before and it's worth repeating... building a new boat can be the realization of dream, or it can be a never-ending nightmare. There's a myriad of considerations in a new build and topping this list should be the people you will work with and the relationships that will be forged in the process.

Before looking at Feadship, I would encourage you to take a close look at Bloemsma & Van Breeman who use most of the same sub-contractors, delivering the same level of Dutch quality, but at far less cost. The owner, Neco van Breeman, is a hands-on builder that is passionate and personable, with a wealth of engineering experience.

Delta also builds a fine boat. Similarly, some of the same contractors that work for Delta also work for other builders in the Pacific Northwest. If I were you, I would contact Jim Hawkins at Crescent/Queenship in British Columbia. They have a state of the art facility and Jim's among the finest in the biz.

And finally, Trinity would top list for the same reasons I mentioned the above. Building boats is also about building relationships. All of these yards are building world-class yachts, but most importantly, the people behind these yards are world-class as well. Can't say the same about others.

[K1W1]

Hi,

I would tend to support Carls comments on Feadship but boy do they look good when they are done. I have done the build and been round the world on a De Vries one and done a couple of long deliveries on a Van Lent one so have experience with Feadship from both the yards that build them.

I am also happy to endorse the recommendation of Nico van Breeman, having recently been aboard an older one of his and been impressed to see the "little ship" with it's grown up system it really was.

I was on the same boat when it was new and it has done a good few miles, it has hung together well and this is a credit to the builders and the fact that the crew key are still much the same as the day it floated.

[nilo]

Originally Posted by YachtForums

Feadship builds a fine boat, but there are other yards building equally nice yachts for a lot less money. I've said this before and it's worth repeating... building a new boat can be the realization of dream, or it can be a never-ending nightmare. There's a myriad of considerations in a new build and topping this list should be the people you will work with and the relationships that will be forged in the process.

Before looking at Feadship, I would encourage you to take a close look at Bloemsma & Van Breeman who use most of the same sub-contractors, delivering the same level of Dutch quality, but at far less cost. The owner, Neco van Breeman, is a hands-on builder that is passionate and personable, with a wealth of engineering experience.

Delta also builds a fine boat. Similarly, some of the same contractors that work for Delta also work for other builders in the Pacific Northwest. If I were you, I would contact Jim Hawkins at Crescent/Queenship in British Columbia. They have a state of the art facility and Jim's among the finest in the biz.

And finally, Trinity would top list for the same reasons I mentioned the above. Building boats is also about building relationships. All of these yards are building world-class yachts, but most importantly, the people behind these yards are world-class as well. Can't say the same about others.

Dear Carl,

As Moonen now capable of building up to 150 feet boats in their new facility, would you consider to put Emile Bilterijst and Moonen in that list as well?

[YachtForums]

Most definitely Nilo. I've suggested Moonen in other threads as well, in addition to providing feature reviews for them. The point was to suggest some options, but it was by no means a complete list.

[stevenpet]

All of your feedback has been incredibly helpful.

It would appear that once I've chosen a good builder and an available boat that I like, that a very thorough survey would be needed to not only assure that all the systems work and are funtioning, but also to see how well they are funtioning.

After all, who wants a yacht where the airconditioning can't keep the crew quarters cool in the Caribbean.

Thanks again for all of your help.

[AMG]

Originally Posted by stevenpet

After all, who wants a yacht where the airconditioning can't keep the crew quarters cool in the Caribbean.

This is normally nothing to be worried about as most large yachts have chilled water systems giving the same cooling everywhere...

[K1W1]

Originally Posted by AMG

This is normally nothing to be worried about as most large yachts have chilled water systems giving the same cooling everywhere...

Hi,

I for one would have to disagree on this one Lars.

[AMG]

You mean they are not installed with the right size in crew areas..?

[K1W1]

Hi,

A lot of the problems I see with these AC Systems these days on the "bigger" yachts have to do with the general airflows and lack of control for specific areas.

The chilled water will be pretty much the same temp through the whole system (on the supply side anyways)

I find that there are often doors that need to be left open for service and access that form part of AC Zones. Every time these are opened even for a short time there are big changes in the internal airflows/pressure.

The use of combined systems with Fan Coil units which are always a nightmare to keep clean and AHU's has gone someway to redress this imbalance as these FCU's work as their own mini environments.

Also, An Air Conditioning system cannot be setup properly in Northern Europe for use in the Med or Caribbean. I always insist on new projects that the final AC acceptance is done in a warm climate, hopefully one that is also humid when the final setup is done.