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Old 06-25-2011, 02:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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re-power CC Roamer Offshore (38ft)

i just love that boat too much. i am thinking of repowering with Diesels. i would need to replace everything from the engine out to the prop. (or maybe reuse the existing props ?)

can anyone give me some advice ?
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Old 06-26-2011, 07:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You will likely also have to replace the galv steel fuel tanks, gauges, add fuel lines, increase engine room vents, etc., etc., etc. I really wanted diesels also. I looked into this last year on my Roamer and it looks like at least a one year project with extensive unknowns and unknown costs. Likely not a good return on efforts. I've had both my big block MoPars rebuilt for $10,000. Look at all parts of the project.
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i went through

a bunch of engines. about 3 years ago we went with custom pistons/ceramic coating on the combustion face. they are indestructible. UNLESS a Walter V-Drive locks up/breaks the flywheel into little pieces/causes some horrible damage to the engine.

it is heart-breaking. it is a good boat with a good hull. but at best these were race-car engines. i can't work on them myself, and this happened on my first outing of the season.

it seems like i either put entirely new gas or diesel set-ups (engine/trans/v-drive/outshaft) in, or never get decent use.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I hear ya about not be able to have something reliable. That's what lead me to have both motors rebuilt. Last year I did run across a set of 4 cylinder Detroit Sidewinders at a great price that had similar power and torque and weight to the Offshore motors. I just thought the project was too open checkbook. this is the second time my Offshore original motors have been rebuilt, last time in 1978. You will still need the Walter V-Drives unless you reconfigure the salon and engine room.
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clearly i am not an expert -

my 50 year old engines/transmissions/v-drives are a nightmare even when i have a good mechanic. i need to go fully modern & free of the need to tinker. i have nothing against the Walter company. maybe they have a modern V-Drive for the application ? or are there alternatives ?
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There are always alternatives. How much are you willing to spend?
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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of course you are correct

it may be more than i can/should afford. what do you think it would cost ?
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:42 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Why not just go with new MPI or EFI gas engines? They will mate to the trans without too much of a problem and they make adapter plates to fit most applications. Going with computer controlled fuel and ignition will stop a lot of headaches.
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from time to time,

i have thought of that. at this point the starboard V-Drive is shot. both V-Drives are original to the boat (old and not up to the challenge). i need to find some kind of solution that makes the boat reliable. once again i have an enormously expensive marina slip and no boat..........
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i have thought of that. at this point the starboard V-Drive is shot. both V-Drives are original to the boat (old and not up to the challenge). i need to find some kind of solution that makes the boat reliable. once again i have an enormously expensive marina slip and no boat..........
Outboards? just kidding......
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Outboards

Hey, don't laugh. I considered outboards but they just don't have the efficiency or torque for a 22000 lb and initial cost would be a problem. A new V-Drive would be about $4800 or half that for used or rebuilt.
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i have thought of that. at this point the starboard V-Drive is shot. both V-Drives are original to the boat (old and not up to the challenge). i need to find some kind of solution that makes the boat reliable. once again i have an enormously expensive marina slip and no boat..........
Hey! I have one of those slips too. My Offshore has been in the yard for 3 months now. You had better check out the steel hull. I thought mine was pretty good but now after $2500 for welding and near $4000 for bottom work, I question the wisdom of it all (errr.. that was my wife speaking!) LOL
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Outboards? just kidding......
There are a few threads of people putting outboards on 36-44' boats. As a matter of fact, one of the bigger manufacturers (wish I could remember who it is now) is putting twin 300 or 350 outboard engines on a 40' cruiser.
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I would do that in a flash

does anyone know more about this ???????
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I'll see if I can dig up more info on this. I thought it was pretty interesting.
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