The NEW Roamer 40'

Capt Keller · 02-04-2005, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by YachtForums

I don't disagree with your choice of materials, but she would be a Lead-Sled.

That's not actually true. It's all about displacement in the water, and the shape of the hull bottom, and what is inside of it determines that. The truth is steel costs more, and the artisians who crafted it here in America no longer work at the trade because of the so called miracle fiberglass that is much easier to mold but breaks down, and needs more repairing for lesser, and lesser reasons, and is what the manufacturers have decided to sell us.

Capt John S. Keller
First Class Pilot

ss6748 · 02-04-2005, 02:30 AM

She could be a lead-sled but she'd be a TRUE Roamer! I still have trouble with them not being steel or aluminium.

Jeff
ss6748

YachtForums · 02-04-2005, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt Keller

That's not actually true. It's all about displacement in the water, and the shape of the hull bottom, and what is inside of it determines that.

So you're saying weight doesn't play a role in this equation?

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Originally Posted by Capt Keller

fiberglass is much easier to mold but breaks down, and needs more repairing for lesser, and lesser reasons

And steel doesn't need maintenance?

YachtForums · 02-04-2005, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by alloyed2sea

Here's how she looked when originally launched in 2000-2001 by OMC (remember OMC?).

Did you know Detroit Diesel was bidding to buy OMC before Bombardier? Can you imagine, a D.D. outboard?

Capt Keller · 02-04-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by YachtForums

So you're saying weight doesn't play a role in this equation?

And steel doesn't need maintenance?

To answer question 1 first I'l like you to consider a plane steel barge that is empty, and one that is full of cargo. You see, it isn't what the hull is made of it is what it carries inside that adds to the depth in the water, and a yacht doesn't carry much in the way of heavy cargo like a barge would. So the draft becomes almost insignificant if you put the same thing inside of a steel hull as you would a fiberglassed hull. The weight isn't really that much different when both are done properly, but the steel crinkles on rocks, and fiberglass holes out. Check out the damaged boats from the Hurricane season we just went through, and you will see that they are mostly boats made of fiberglass that had they been made of steel wouldn't have half as much repairs to be made, or wouldn't have sunk right at their docks.

As for maintainence, that depends on what kind of water the yacht is in, and how well the owner takes care of it. Isn't it? Yes, normal, not stainless steel will rust more easily in saltwater, but hardly at all in fresh water, but fiberglass will blister, crack, and not take a bumping very well, and aluminum will corrode through electollisis, and wood will rot if not taken care of. But you tell me, which hull material would you want the ship to be built of if you were going on an ocean liner? And by the way=Most steel hulled owners have their hulls epoxy resined.

Capt John S. Keller

alloyed2sea · 02-06-2005, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ss6748

She could be a lead-sled but she'd be a TRUE Roamer! I still have trouble with them not being steel or aluminium.

CC should have called their new top-of-the-line GRP (fiberglass) boats - Commanders, eh?
Oh well, a roamin' we shall go!

CaptainRoamer · 02-18-2005, 07:32 PM

The 40' and 43' Roamers are the same boat. They were using the LOA when it was called the 43'.

I watched them build a new 43'. They are incredible! Chris Craft has carried on the tradition well. From I have been told they are doing quite well. The Corsair, Launches and Roamers cannot be built fast enough. I am a fan of steel, as my Roamer is, but the new Roamers rival anything on the water.

They have also purchased Indian Motorcycle- another American Legend.

Plastic Roamer · 02-22-2005, 09:55 AM

Eric,

Looked again at the pictures you posted of the original Roamer 39 and I still believe that's the mysterious hull number 2. I just don't believe they redid the gel coat strip from red to blue and went into very tight spaces to remove all the hardward prior to installing the teak swim platform that's on our boat. I'm surprised that none of the original crew at CC can answer the question one way or another.

Anyway, I've attached a picture of us roaming on Lake Champlain last summer. This year we plan to cruise North and up the St Lawrence River in August.

Bill

alloyed2sea · 02-22-2005, 10:56 AM

Still looking B-U-tiful Bill.
I love that "short" hardtop design - one the better looking express cruisers out there today.
So, we found hull#2, eh?
Well, he or she still hasn't shown up here yet, but you never know - cruising the web, they're bound to find us.
Now you really got me thinking (danger! danger!) - and looking over my photo archives on the original Roamer 39 - check out the photos of the two "different" dinettes I found! (one has two pedestals, the other only one; plus the wood in one is cherry, and the other is ash).
The galleys are also very different (aluminum sheathed walls between the countertop and cabinets, sink types, not to mention the wood finishes and addition of SS pole)
Definite "proof" of hull#2 having been finished by CC, eh? (Which one is yours?)
Also included a picture of the helm station - is this one yours (see the Crusader sticker)?
Finally, included photos of the forward stateroom, look familiar?
Think we're on to something here.

In any case, thanx for checking in and hope all going well with your winter projects.

Cheers!
Eric
"Tin Tonic"

alloyed2sea · 02-22-2005, 10:59 AM

For comparison sakes.

Plastic Roamer · 02-22-2005, 02:35 PM

Eric,

Well, the shots with the maple? interiors all all from our boat. But are the shots from the cherry interior a different boat?

Our boat does not have that crusader sticker on the service center but does have a corin cutting board on the sink cover but not present on this shot. Our helm chair is similar but this chair has different arms.

The kitchen is different not only in shape(which they could have changed) but ours has a support bar going from the counter to the ceiling above the refrigerator.

Our table has only one leg but is not built in.

Our's is hull number one CCBRB101D001 but I think the other boat (if it was a different boat) was the boat displayed at the dealer's meeting in the summer of 2000 and ours was the boat displayed at the Annapolis boat show just prior to the bankruptsy.

We did get an extra set of linens, pillows etc. which I think came from the original interion design. Does that make a second boat or a remake of the first?

Confusing.

alloyed2sea · 02-22-2005, 03:54 PM

Doubt that CC rewooded the interior. If yours is the lighter colored interior (maple, and not ash) then, the "missing" Roamer 39 has the cherry interior with the double-pedestalled dinette table. Do you know if both boats came with Crusaders? That might clear up the origins of the helm shot.
Confirm for me again that yours is the lighter colored interior and then I can proceed with my detective work.

THANX!
Eric

Plastic Roamer · 02-22-2005, 05:49 PM

Ours is definitely the maple interior and the blue exterior gel coat trim.
Other than that, I know nothing about a second hull.