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Old 01-21-2010, 03:23 PM   #16 (permalink)
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My suspicion is that it was a sinker and is rebuilt, some of the joiner work does not look original CC type .
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I have been aboard this boat. She is beautiful. Yes, some non-original interior finishes-but not a rebuilt sinker, not to my eye anyway.
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Do you recall engine, gen, stabilizer /times/overhaul status? The broker did not have the info handy? I am going down next week to have a look.
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:20 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 01-22-2010, 10:05 AM   #20 (permalink)
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If you make an offer be sure to include an ultrasound hull survey as part of your requirements. It is very easy to cover up bottom corrosion with fairing and then paint. Can't hide it from the ultrasound though. Try to get a surveyor who is familiar with aluminum boats. Looks like it could be a great deal. It's a million dollar yacht for a fraction of the cost. But don't forget to budget enough to feed a million dollar yacht.

I have a 44' Striker (1970) and had no problem getting insurance through allstate. You will want to check with any insurance company and see what certifications you will need to operate a vessel of this size.
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Old 01-22-2010, 12:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If you make an offer be sure to include an ultrasound hull survey as part of your requirements. It is very easy to cover up bottom corrosion with fairing and then paint. Can't hide it from the ultrasound though. Try to get a surveyor who is familiar with aluminum boats. Looks like it could be a great deal. It's a million dollar yacht for a fraction of the cost. But don't forget to budget enough to feed a million dollar yacht.

I have a 44' Striker (1970) and had no problem getting insurance through allstate. You will want to check with any insurance company and see what certifications you will need to operate a vessel of this size.
Not even close. It's a 40 year old aluminum boat. It's gone well past its design life span. If it had a Small Passenger Vessel Inspection Certificate already on it, it might be worth what they're asking if it passes survey. There is also more that goes wrong with aluminium over time than just corrosion, you also run into a few weld issues. The typical end life calculations for aluminium vessels are at 30 years.

If asking on this 108' 1983 Broward is $785k (and it can probably be bought for under $600k in this market), how are you figuring a decade older Chris Craft to be worth a million?
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Old 01-22-2010, 04:24 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Not even close. It's a 40 year old aluminum boat. It's gone well past its design life span. If it had a Small Passenger Vessel Inspection Certificate already on it, it might be worth what they're asking if it passes survey. There is also more that goes wrong with aluminium over time than just corrosion, you also run into a few weld issues. The typical end life calculations for aluminium vessels are at 30 years.

If asking on this 108' 1983 Broward is $785k (and it can probably be bought for under $600k in this market), how are you figuring a decade older Chris Craft to be worth a million?
Maybe I should have been more clear. First off I know all about aluminum boat issues. Been there - doing that. My boat's 40 - This ones only 32. Also the boat truly is only worth what it will sell for. Or re-sell for after you buy it. However you still have to FEED it like it's a multi-million dollar yacht. So you can buy it for $230K. Then figure on spending $50-$100K per year to keep and maintain it. Maybe more. $5K here $10K there. Leaking rear main - no problem we can just rebuild in place for just $40K. Found a minor crack on a rib. Easy to fix $10K for the welder $10K to pull the interior and replace. Etc, etc, etc. Big boat = BIG money.
You are buying into the repair cycle of a million dollar yacht. Doesn't matter if you pay $1 or $1mil.

Anybody out there with an 78' yacht care to tell how much they spend on average over 10 years?
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Old 01-22-2010, 09:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Maybe I should have been more clear. First off I know all about aluminum boat issues. Been there - doing that. My boat's 40 - This ones only 32. Also the boat truly is only worth what it will sell for. Or re-sell for after you buy it. However you still have to FEED it like it's a multi-million dollar yacht. So you can buy it for $230K. Then figure on spending $50-$100K per year to keep and maintain it. Maybe more. $5K here $10K there. Leaking rear main - no problem we can just rebuild in place for just $40K. Found a minor crack on a rib. Easy to fix $10K for the welder $10K to pull the interior and replace. Etc, etc, etc. Big boat = BIG money.
You are buying into the repair cycle of a million dollar yacht. Doesn't matter if you pay $1 or $1mil.

Anybody out there with an 78' yacht care to tell how much they spend on average over 10 years?
Ahhhh, gotcha now, yep, that I can agree with.
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I had to chuckle when I saw Bertram mentioned. I'm guessing you could take any Roamer in the fleet and run it over a yellow buoy without having to wonder if the boat's gonna sink or not.

sry...couldn't resist. ;-)

I agree with Pascal, though, about the '70s Chris Craft interiors. They went waaaay too heavy into formica and other "maintenance free" surfaces. It's too bad they didn't just pull some of the interior guys off the old Constellation line and put 'em to work in the Roamer shop.
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I had to chuckle when I saw Bertram mentioned. I'm guessing you could take any Roamer in the fleet and run it over a yellow buoy without having to wonder if the boat's gonna sink or not.

sry...couldn't resist. ;-)

I agree with Pascal, though, about the '70s Chris Craft interiors. They went waaaay too heavy into formica and other "maintenance free" surfaces. It's too bad they didn't just pull some of the interior guys off the old Constellation line and put 'em to work in the Roamer shop.
Yeah, the 70s and 80s weren't exactly the "golden years" when it came to styling, and that's not limited to Chris Craft....
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:41 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Yeah, the 70s and 80s weren't exactly the "golden years" when it came to styling, and that's not limited to Chris Craft....
Yes, the interiors started sliding downhill in the seventies - I've heard one call the styling "Unimaginative", and I don't disagree.
But here we are 40+ years later spending big bucks (look at Homer) putting in
interiors the carpenters back then could only dream about on their lunch-break. The fact that these things are still around is a testiment to (maybe not fine) pretty darn good boat building!
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Old 01-25-2010, 06:03 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Am I mistaken or is that red oak paneling in the pilothouse on Right of Passage?

I went to yachtworld to see what's out there for the money now. Holy smokes... I think this 68 footer might be the better deal @ $210k asking. http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1975.../United-States

Not enough wood in the interior for my taste, but look at those Detroits...
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:03 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Thanks for all of the insight, what I'm really interested in is how these boats handle in a seaway, I'm considering it for the loop and near shore with occasional down island, Thanks
I see the boat is still out there for sale. Did you find something that prevented you from moving forward? If so, please share. Any other insights from anyone on this boat?
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:07 AM   #29 (permalink)
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According to the listing broker, as of last week there was an accepted offer and she was scheduled for survey.
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74ft Roamer

Guys,
I am new to this forum and am considering a 74ft Roamer of the Derecktor type. She was either made in 1973 0r 1977 still checking that. She has been treated very poorly and will be a major restoration of love. I have recently done a 1980 410 Commander. Are there any photos of the craft currently under discussion? Any sage advice about a restoration on one of these?
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