['roundthehorn]

Originally Posted by K1W1

Hi,
I don't know what you get when you click on the link but what I got does not belong on this forum.

When I go the site all I get is one of those generic page holders with links for sponsered listings of charter companies and other yachting related services and searches. The domain name seems to have been bought by someone and has been "parked".

[cdg]

Well, thanks to your advice everyone I bought a Cape Horn. (You'll be more careful with advice in future - HA HA). Our first voyage on her involved some unpleasant, heavyish seas, and wind 90deg to the sea. I can say that she performed magnificently, with no hint of pitching, dry decks, and while of course she rolled (the stablisers were U/S awaiting a new board) it wasnt excessive at all. You can feel her weight (steel superstructure 'n all) but it isn't a problem.
Yes the 'rollover column' is in the pilothouse; may we never need it!
When we get the stablisers workingproperly, I'll report back on bilge keels+stabliser performance.
cheers

[JWY]

I am in frequent communication with Peter Sever, the creator and owner of The Cape Horn Trawler Corp. While Columbus (fka Wright of Passage) was for sale, I did not want to post specific information so as not to look like I was promoting, so this is an after-the-fact- edification.

Since "CDG" has posted he now owns Columbus, I directed Peter Sever to YachtForums as an FYI. Peter sent me an email which I am taking the liberty of posting (he is traveling and was using shortspeak from his laptop not expecting me to post, as was not my intention):

From Peter Sever, Cape Horn Trawlers, 08/30/09:

"What I remember is WoP Sea Trials in NB with best skipper in area at helm, in Atlantic Force 7. Major winds/seas. Skipper teaches fishermen how to drive boats for Cdn Gvt and does the licences for Govt. Also 5 other local skippers aboard, yard owner etc. H**d {the new owner, jw} and his Capt were aboard as was my buddy from the US Destroyer USS Decatur in which we crossed Pacific in also in Force 7.

EVERYONE agreed that in all sea states in Force 7 she was fabulous. Have video of roll in beam seas, was negligible. Have complete videos of the trip & boat, edited and gave to H**d {jw}

Skipper said while pulling back into harbour quote "she feels like a 100' fishing boat coming home loaded to the decks with fish ..." Thats the best compliment ever received. He kicked sh*t {jw} outa de boat and loved her. So did I, I was IMPRESSED as hell.

On the US$1 billion Decatur in Force 7, NO ONE, not even capt, slept for 3 days ... rolling was horrid, major, cannot stay in bed, get thrown to floor.
Coulda slept like baby on WoP. Truly no issue. I think roll was 10-15˚ max. Decatur was 30˚, I have it on video ... same sea state!

Head seas, we never ever established there was an issue. I heard the mother crawling story ...
On trip south to FL there was some whining, but afterwards none.
Skipper said it never happened again -- it was likely frequency of seas and amplitude in Atlantic.

Pitching MAY MAY (do not know) be related to the hard chine shape and shape of rear end we subsequently changed. H**d added 6' to back of boat after hull was built ... I refused to guarantee it, said not part of design so its a toss-up. made him satisfy himself with architect and sign a letter to that effect. It was a 75 he turned into 81 but newer version we addressed any possible pitching issue, changed bulb bow, had many Fishing Boat and commercial engineers study it and modify. S&S ditto agreed.

Deck drainage was fine, major major deck drainage all my boats, best in the industry in fact ... I designed and built it in (drainage one of major causes of instability and capsize all boats) ... it was P**'s {owner's first name, jw} TEAK deck that was not 100% even so there were little puddles, like 1/2" deep. Extremely heavy teak deck I did not want. I wanted Marinedeck at 1/4 the weight. Pat typically insisted. It was ONLY the top deck in the big flat sunning area.... No other puddles. Problem was no camber in top deck, design issue. Top deck should be an arch, was not, it was flat. Minor issue anyhow, not weight or danger---but puddles do annoy and should not happen."

Judy

['roundthehorn]

Originally Posted by JWY

Pitching MAY MAY (do not know) be related to the hard chine shape and shape of rear end we subsequently changed. H**d added 6' to back of boat after hull was built ... I refused to guarantee it, said not part of design so its a toss-up. [Emphasis added] made him satisfy himself with architect and sign a letter to that effect. It was a 75 he turned into 81 but newer version we addressed any possible pitching issue, changed bulb bow, had many Fishing Boat and commercial engineers study it and modify. S&S ditto agreed.

I am surprised that Peter Sever would say he would “refuse to guarantee it” considering that the transformation of the 75 to the 81 was definitely part of Cape Horn’s ad campaign. A photo accompanied this ad showing the added hull extension in build prior to primer and paint.

From Sept/Oct 2001 Passagemaker, pp. 72-73…

CH75 TRANSMORGIFIES INTO A TRUE CH81. [Caps and bold from the ad.] This is how it happened. The owner of Hull#14 (75’) hired an excellent captain as his project manager. The captain suggested a swim platform larger than the three-foot one we had originally designed, because less agile guests may need easy access from the floating dock. Plus he wanted more deck storage for scuba gear, toys, fenders and such. The captain came up with a clever layout of an extended swim platform which incorporates a great deal of dry storage – plus a better location for the CableMaster and aft bollards. While we were at it, we extended the hull itself, thereby enhancing hull speed.

Now the CH75 is available as a true CH81, because the hull is extended six feet with Chuck Neville’s blessing on the fundamentals (he’s the architect after all.) The new design is aesthetically and functionally superior, something we are recommending to future CH75 customers. The extension also enhances re-sale value far more than the cost, being a significantly bigger boat.

The owner of Hull #17 wants to do something similar now, refining it even further with an aft chain locker and self-launching anchor. Another great idea! Consider it done. That’s how Cape Horns evolve. [Emphasis added]

That sounds like quite a bit of bragging for a design that PS wouldn’t guarantee. Don’t get me wrong, I was very interested in the Cape Horn boats and very pleased and impressed with what I saw and read about them. I know CH started running ads touting their new designs from Sparkman & Stephens several issues later, but they continued to highlight Wright of Passage in their ads.

BTW, Judy has High Note (which has the extension incorporating the stern anchor) listed for sale on her site if anyone is interested in seeing photos.