New Calixas 105 Yacht!

YachtForum · 04-30-2007, 09:19 AM

Thanks for the kudos all! Lots of work goes into these reviews. It's nice when they are appreciated.

Some bridge pics were previously requested. Here's what I have...

RoyN · 04-30-2007, 09:21 AM

Great! thanks for the bridge pictures... Any details on the equipment? didn't find much on their website...

YachtForum · 04-30-2007, 09:30 AM

Limited details were supplied on the nav systems. With any of our reviews, I rarely focus on this equipment because it is often subject to updates & changes.

CaptTom · 04-30-2007, 08:16 PM

Carl,
Nice job on the review. As I did tour the yacht at the show, I can vouch for all that was said and then some. Thanks for the credit on some of the photos. Let me know if it's okay to post one or two more (like of the shower head in the stern).

DaveA · 05-01-2007, 09:02 AM

Thanks Carl for your superb picture shot of the Calixtas. I have been wondering for years where the development of the trawler/fulldisplacement yacht would develop to. Alas, you have not answered the question. We really need to see a sea trial (and more than just 90 minutes in sheltered waters) to find out how this supertrawler really handles the off shore waters she is promoting herself as built for.

The obvious contrast is Nordhavn who had so much confidence in their ocean crossing capability that they circumnavigated in a 40' production yacht and then took responsibility for shepherding a Trans Atlanic crossing of a gaggle of their boats (+ a few drop ins) ranging from 44 to 62 feet.

The point is, Nordhavn successfully did the circumnavigation and have incorporated their knowledge
into boats as large as 86'. Althouth superbly equipped Calixtas (at least in the terms of your story) does not reveal it's offshore (let alone ocean going) capabilty.

So, is it a genuine trans-oceanic yacht? And is a Calixtas better value than a Nordhavn 86? Is it capable of reaching Cape York where no less than two Nordhavns (both less than 57 are currently exploring. Hard questions, but ones we'd like to see you confront in this space. So, please, when you post a review of an "Expedition Yacht", please show us some evidence of what an expedition yacht is.
Nordhavn have competitors but on the strength of the evidence selected Calixtas is saying "I am bigger so I must be better" I have to say that I hoped that philosophy went down with the Titanic.

Cheers

DaveA

RoyN · 05-01-2007, 06:32 PM

Dave,

these are valid points, but in all honesty, this is a brand new boat... It isnt fair to say that a review must state whether it has gone around the world in order to make it valid... the review is extremely valid in what it covers. In time we will be able to see for ourselves what its capabilities are (assuming it's owners use it for all its intended).

Nordhavn didn't get a full "around the globe" review 1 month after its initial delivery, now did it?

RoyN · 05-01-2007, 06:34 PM

about the bridge: does anyone know what software that is? I'm researching computer naviagation systems for yachts (to refit or to put into my next boat) and the only one I see that really seems to have it all somewhat integrated is nobeltec... (all others dont have radar, for example)...

This looks nice, although the bridge is amazing, it would probably look great with anything you put on it...

EDIT: and about not having a pilot seat or leaning bar, do you guys think that just hasnt been installed or is there some other explanation? I'd assume that it will be very difficult to stay standing up in bad seas without anything to lean on?

CaptTom · 05-01-2007, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoyN

EDIT: and about not having a pilot seat or leaning bar, do you guys think that just hasnt been installed or is there some other explanation? I'd assume that it will be very difficult to stay standing up in bad seas without anything to lean on?

Roy,
There are actually two seats for the helm. Scroll back up and look at the second picture, you can see the seat on the left side. I went back and checked my photos and there are two seats, just don't remember if they are mounted or movable.

YachtNews · 05-01-2007, 11:25 PM

Hey Dave A, welcome to YF. I see that you keep calling the vessel the calixtas, i thought it was a mistake but it was repeated in your post, in case you did not know or were not sure of the spelling it is Calixas, leave out the 'T'

Loren Schweizer · 05-02-2007, 09:56 AM

Dave A:

Some assumptions that make the case for the Calixas 105 to indeed be a capable Expedition vessel--

Naval architecture (Greg Marshall) has a serious pedigree.

Assume that wave tank testing (Greg does this in Vancouver) took place prior to the build.

The bulbous bow should reduce pitching to a dull roar.

Perhaps Lars can back me up on this, but there aren't too many designs--anybody's-- that hit the water and blow their mission.

IMHO, as usual.

TexTaz · 05-02-2007, 05:54 PM

The Calixas was the Corpus Christi in water show. Dock rumors had it that an individual had flown in from Central America and purchased her. We never did get any confirmation.

The boat went out twice that we saw, heading out into the bay against a 15 knot winds and 1-2 ft seas the water was breaking 3/4 of the way up the bow. That seemed out of line for a 105' boat. Many people at the docks were point that out and commenting on it.

She's definately and eye catcher though.

YachtNews · 07-31-2007, 10:36 PM

I saw some pics on the designer website, I hope it is okay if I post them:

http://www.gregmarshalldesign.com/te...e.php?boa_id=8

EHayim · 09-29-2007, 09:00 PM

this is a pretty sick yacht
just one question
whats going on with the 164? i mean the plans look pretty good and i'm not sure if you guys had any information about it.