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Old 05-02-2009, 05:48 AM   #16
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So do I, and that's why I neither own an Azimut nor a Ferretti any longer
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:37 PM   #17
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Does talking alot make someone right?

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I find your accusations absurd, but I don't expect you to stick around long enough to accredit yourself. At last count, Capt J has made over 650 posts. For the most part, they contain good, relevant information. Is he sometimes biased? Sure, but that makes him human. Is he always right? No, and he's been taken to task for it. But... he continues to contribute to YF, adding to the collective knowledge base here and a few of us come to respect the same.

If Capt J was a dealer, we would have 'outed' him long ago. We're pretty good at that. Then, we would have banned him. You however... are questionable with a whopping 5 posts. Care to redeem yourself?

You want to know why I said what i said? Look at any of the posts Capt jay has made recently where people asked about boats - in EVERY ONE he has recommended Cabo (or Viking secondary)! Regardless of what they asked. Including insulting one who asked about Oceans and some other cheaper boats - ("I think he is trying to buy more boat than he can afford"!) How is that helpful?

I have run most of the boats he has discussed and he has repeatedly stated inaccurate information about ride, amenities, comfort, etc.

Ask almost anyone in the industry on the east coast about Cabo and they will tell you the same thing - they ride hard and very wet, although I can't speak for the bigger ones I have personal experience on 5 and several close associates who have run those and 2 other models with the same remarks.

His claims on the 57' Bertram are so far off they are absurd! As proven by everyone else who responded who have actually owned or driven them.

Just because someone has made a lot of posts on your site doesn't make them anything but willing to spend a lot of time at the computer!!! I just found your site recently and added my input where I felt people needed honest unbiased opinions with first hand knowledge. If you look at my posts you will see that I consider the type of use a person wants, and then offer the plusses and minuses of each vessel I have opined on.

I stand behind everything I have said and am willing to offer UNBIASED OPINIONS on those things I have knowledge about that others may need.
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Old 05-03-2009, 10:48 PM   #18
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Alright Mr Capt Jay - here is why you would consider buying a boat for a million dollars whose manufacturer has had their share of problems and fights warranty - ONE the boat is NO LONGER IN WARRANTY! - TWO If you have a survey you will know whether that boat represents a problem - a decent surveyor knows history of manufacturers and where to look for problems and if there were any, whether they have been handled correctly. THREE - it's an excellent boat, probably one of the best in its class (that is mid 2000's 54-60') FOUR can be bought cheaper than some of their competition. So reserve you r smart answers for people who can't see through your biased opinions.

Show me a boat builder who hasn't periodically had problems . For that matter, very few don't fight warranty issues - especially in hard times.
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Old 05-03-2009, 11:24 PM   #19
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I'm just going to point something out to you Tommy. That post you said saying CptJ is working for Cabo and so on and so forth sounded like you were flaming him more than anything else. I personally think Cpt J is an honest commentator and gives very good opinion, most, MOST, are accurate. And Cpt J isn't the only one here who says Cabo's are great boats, because I also think they're great boats with a great ride and very well built. Honestly, don't get so worked up about this.

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