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Old 05-21-2007, 01:23 PM   #7
reidsatsea
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ft Liquordale
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Not sure if you are still looking but here is my 2c worth...

If you had asked me a year ago what I thought of Horizon's, they would not have been able to print my response. Then, my experience with them was limited to a 1999 64ft Horizon that had been worked hard, put away wet and sold on to some sucker...
It was not a happy experience.

A year later, and wow how things have changed. We are now the happy Capt and Mate team on a 2005 76ft Horizon, and they have definitely stepped WAY up in my estimation.

They have come a long way since the 1999 version, and they seem to be improving all the time. Our owner's were first timers when they had the boat built for them, and they say Horizon was incredibly helpful in helping them decide on features and allowing them to make changes. I know that doesn't help you buying used, but it gives you an idea of how hard they try.

I'm not sure what improvements they would have made already by the time your 2001 model was built, but they're learning all the time.

I certainly agree with the comment on their carpentry and joinery - it's amazing. I believe the woodworkers have limited access to power tools and most of it is done by hand, which only goes to show how talented they are.

I must also agree with the comment about the aircon systems. The 1999 version had the individual units and they were a pain. They have since moved towards one or two large chillers which is a major improvement. What the 2001 has, not sure, but it might be something to bear in mind before buying. Due to their carpentry, making changes is not always easy. They build things well - cupboard bases and backs are glued AND screwed together - but this means that wiring and pipework is often impossible to get to.
Our older Horizon had very few spare "spaces" for extra wiring, which made for frustrating refits.

The hull design, unfortunately, makes for a wet boat. Anything over 3ft and we take water over the front - no matter how slow we take it.

The CAT engines - on both boats - have been reliable, with parts always easily available. Better all-round access on the newer model makes servicing the engines a (relative) breeze. CATs might not be everyone's favourites but we have had no major hassles to complain of and we prefer them to some of the others we have had to work on.
We have heard nightmare stories regarding generators on some of the older Horizons, and our 1999 had been refitted in that department.
Our new boat does not have our first choice of gensets installed, but so far - touch wood - we haven't had too much trouble with them.

One thing that I would make sure the 2001 has is STABILIZERS. They weren't even optional extras when the 64ft came out in 1999 and it needed them! The 76ft has them, and it makes the world of difference. I would imagine an 82ft without them would make for some rolly trips.

Despite the "bad" points I've mentioned, we love the boat and feel Horizons to be good value for money. When we compare what our owners got for what they spent - especially when compared to other boats of similar size out there - we think they're a great deal. The interior is roomy and comfortable. The layout is well thought out and practical. The engine spaces are reasonably comfortable and accessible. And - most importantly - the crew quarters are GREAT!

BTW - I only work ON a Horizon, not FOR them; and I do not receive any reward for recommending them!

Hope this helps!

Happy Sailing
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