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alx · 10-12-2006, 07:28 AM

Hello ppl

I hope this thread is not forgotten as yet

I as well believe that Sunseeker is one of the best brands around to 82ft and perhaps the best in the open performance cruisers. I have gone out onboard with Portofino 53s, Portofino 46, Predator 55, Predator 61, Predator 68 & 75.
With regards those open cruisers the feel you get out in the sea is great, the boat feels very robust and you can manoeuvre rapidly in waves without feeling discomfort. The quality of built is definitelly there, the well balanced hull is also there.
With regards quality of finishing, I also think that it should be better (for eg. sikaflex on windows, on joints, teak planks, hardtops etc.). The Sunseeker factory has expanded rapidly over the last 4-5 years, a lot of personnel employed, in my opinion the control of quality and staff has somehow slipped from the management. If you have 500 technicians and 3-4 people in key positions to supervise and organise, you cannot have the same 3-4 managers for the current 2000 employees! If you reduce the build time from 10 days to just 5 days again you will lack in quality control. And all this at the expense of the shipyard flying out warranty engineers all the time and damage the reputation. And that damages the reputation indeed as a lot of not so much into yachting people that decide to buy a Sunseeker believe they are buying the perfect faultless yacht. Ofcourse this is also a matter of aftersales and dealerships, which is an issue but let's no get too political

Having said that Sunseekers remain one of the best yacht manufacturers, for their reputation in building beautiful yachts and some of the best hulls around and ofcourse the brand name; the luxury of being a "proud Sunseeker owner" which I have to give it to the marketing and promotion, they have raised the company profile very high.

As far as owners selling their brand new yachts, indeed there are a lot of owners that buy the slot and start to build at one year and immediatelly have it for sale. If it is a 100+ foot yacht of the custom yards next year's prices and following demand might make you sometimes 1-2m euros

with the price difference for a a yacht that may cost about 10m euros.
There is definitelly a trend there

Cheers
Alx

10-12-2006, 07:28 AM	#36
alx Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: athens - greece Posts: 3	Hello ppl I hope this thread is not forgotten as yet I as well believe that Sunseeker is one of the best brands around to 82ft and perhaps the best in the open performance cruisers. I have gone out onboard with Portofino 53s, Portofino 46, Predator 55, Predator 61, Predator 68 & 75. With regards those open cruisers the feel you get out in the sea is great, the boat feels very robust and you can manoeuvre rapidly in waves without feeling discomfort. The quality of built is definitelly there, the well balanced hull is also there. With regards quality of finishing, I also think that it should be better (for eg. sikaflex on windows, on joints, teak planks, hardtops etc.). The Sunseeker factory has expanded rapidly over the last 4-5 years, a lot of personnel employed, in my opinion the control of quality and staff has somehow slipped from the management. If you have 500 technicians and 3-4 people in key positions to supervise and organise, you cannot have the same 3-4 managers for the current 2000 employees! If you reduce the build time from 10 days to just 5 days again you will lack in quality control. And all this at the expense of the shipyard flying out warranty engineers all the time and damage the reputation. And that damages the reputation indeed as a lot of not so much into yachting people that decide to buy a Sunseeker believe they are buying the perfect faultless yacht. Ofcourse this is also a matter of aftersales and dealerships, which is an issue but let's no get too political Having said that Sunseekers remain one of the best yacht manufacturers, for their reputation in building beautiful yachts and some of the best hulls around and ofcourse the brand name; the luxury of being a "proud Sunseeker owner" which I have to give it to the marketing and promotion, they have raised the company profile very high. As far as owners selling their brand new yachts, indeed there are a lot of owners that buy the slot and start to build at one year and immediatelly have it for sale. If it is a 100+ foot yacht of the custom yards next year's prices and following demand might make you sometimes 1-2m euros with the price difference for a a yacht that may cost about 10m euros. There is definitelly a trend there Cheers Alx __________________ ~~RIDE LIKE THE WIND~~